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Well when your car thumps around and makes heads start looking around a block away Johnny law looks too. Turbo is one the stealthiest ways to go fast. The only thing better is a hidden nitrous kit because it's totally off until triggered. But Nitrous is being cracked down on in a lot of area's now, giving people hazmat tickets and stuff. A H/C car will need a BIG cam and nice flowing (IE loud) exhaust for big power so will attract unwanted attention(read the PO PO). I live in an area where a big roots blower sticking out of the hood or a nasty cam will get you hounded by the LAW. Best things fast are undetectable until used.
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Originally Posted by Public
Well when your car thumps around and makes heads start looking around a block away Johnny law looks too. Turbo is one the stealthiest ways to go fast. The only thing better is a hidden nitrous kit because it's totally off until triggered. But Nitrous is being cracked down on in a lot of area's now, giving people hazmat tickets and stuff. A H/C car will need a BIG cam and nice flowing (IE loud) exhaust for big power so will attract unwanted attention(read the PO PO). I live in an area where a big roots blower sticking out of the hood or a nasty cam will get you hounded by the LAW. Best things fast are undetectable until used.
As much as I hate South Florida, it's still cool here. But thanks to the ricer movie, we are all in the crosshairs.
******* japcar crowd
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Originally Posted by Public
Well when your car thumps around and makes heads start looking around a block away Johnny law looks too. Turbo is one the stealthiest ways to go fast. The only thing better is a hidden nitrous kit because it's totally off until triggered. But Nitrous is being cracked down on in a lot of area's now, giving people hazmat tickets and stuff. A H/C car will need a BIG cam and nice flowing (IE loud) exhaust for big power so will attract unwanted attention(read the PO PO). I live in an area where a big roots blower sticking out of the hood or a nasty cam will get you hounded by the LAW. Best things fast are undetectable until used.
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Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
Explanation? (as you apparently grasp at straws)
keep that list of full weight H/C running 10's in street trim coming...
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I'm waiting for your list of full street trim, SBE, 17" tire, M6, full weight running 10's. You originated that, so you should definately be able to come up with an example of your own, right???
As I said earlier, I have zero problems with LEO's and my car, even with spirited driving and the big cam. It's just a matter of not being a dumbass.
As I said earlier, I have zero problems with LEO's and my car, even with spirited driving and the big cam. It's just a matter of not being a dumbass.
Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
No, not really. With proper suspension, minimal weight reduction, rear end with proper gears, clutch/converter (in other words supporting mods any car needs) bottom 11's or better with heads/cam is fully obtainable.
you want a list of full weight street trim turbo/blower cars going 10s....go look at the FI list. and if their not running 10s atleast their trapping 126+ which you wont find a H/C doing.
now show me your list
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Originally Posted by 30th t/a
hey your the one that stepped in 1st and you havent back your statement up at all. F it, you cant even find a car running skinnies up front running 10s
you want a list of full weight street trim turbo/blower cars going 10s....go look at the FI list. and if their not running 10s atleast their trapping 126+ which you wont find a H/C doing.
now show me your list
you want a list of full weight street trim turbo/blower cars going 10s....go look at the FI list. and if their not running 10s atleast their trapping 126+ which you wont find a H/C doing.
now show me your list
Oh, wait, i already told you of someone who ran 11.28 cam only. Tech handle I8AFORD
Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
Do you really need me to show you heads/cam cars running bottom 11's? That's not hard, I'll get on that soon as I finish helping my roomate chagne O2's.
Oh, wait, i already told you of someone who ran 11.28 cam only. Tech handle I8AFORD
Oh, wait, i already told you of someone who ran 11.28 cam only. Tech handle I8AFORD
here 1 full streeter blower car in the 10s
https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction/318902-another-10-second-street-car.html
PS...i know your gonna get me on the big giant z06 cam...
ok do a search on black ls1 t/a , taigo and rob raymers trans am...all FI, full weight in the 10s
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Easy way out: Take the 11.28 cam only and go with a larger cam and/or heads and there is the 10 second heads/cam car.
I suppose I'll concede that low 11's is what you should expect out of your average heads/cam LS1. If I stop being lazy I'll find the guys that are in the 10's. After all, the cam only record is 10.295 and there are plenty of SI guys in the mid/high 11's. They are a little heavily built other than the engine though...
I suppose I'll concede that low 11's is what you should expect out of your average heads/cam LS1. If I stop being lazy I'll find the guys that are in the 10's. After all, the cam only record is 10.295 and there are plenty of SI guys in the mid/high 11's. They are a little heavily built other than the engine though...
Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
Easy way out: Take the 11.28 cam only and go with a larger cam and/or heads and there is the 10 second heads/cam car.
I suppose I'll concede that low 11's is what you should expect out of your average heads/cam LS1. If I stop being lazy I'll find the guys that are in the 10's. After all, the cam only record is 10.295 and there are plenty of SI guys in the mid/high 11's. They are a little heavily built other than the engine though...
I suppose I'll concede that low 11's is what you should expect out of your average heads/cam LS1. If I stop being lazy I'll find the guys that are in the 10's. After all, the cam only record is 10.295 and there are plenty of SI guys in the mid/high 11's. They are a little heavily built other than the engine though...
full weight h/c cam cars that are in the 10's are rarer than chupokobras.
when my car gets done I'll show you a 10 sec full weight fi car with the factory SS wheels on drag radials.
If there's a h/c car that can do that I'd be interested to see that.
low 10 sec cam only cars are gutted out race cars fyi. I'll agree that there are tons of mid-high 11 h/c cars out there. to go faster they usually have to do weight reduction and bump up the gearing.
when my car gets done I'll show you a 10 sec full weight fi car with the factory SS wheels on drag radials.
If there's a h/c car that can do that I'd be interested to see that.
low 10 sec cam only cars are gutted out race cars fyi. I'll agree that there are tons of mid-high 11 h/c cars out there. to go faster they usually have to do weight reduction and bump up the gearing.
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Lively thread we have here. Everyone's 
their opinions.
Moneywise, N20 still the winner and it's great for drag racing. If I were going the fan-in-the-can route, I would forge the bottom.
BIG MONEY!
their opinions.Moneywise, N20 still the winner and it's great for drag racing. If I were going the fan-in-the-can route, I would forge the bottom.
BIG MONEY!