Just a quick pic of the 05 model GTO intercooled twin turbo system, hope you enjoy. A similar twin turbo system to suit the C6 Corvette is in the design and development stage right now, any feedback and comments are welcomed.



Peter

 

any other pics? that looks good from down below. i take it you are using a pump like withe the sts for the oil drain. tubular headers? never mind i see the pump. looks great

 

Looking good it's def a good start for the GTO guys

 

Thanks and here's a top view of the intercooled twin turbo system (not that you can see a lot of the install) and the drain oil is pumped back to the oil pan, been doing that for many years, nothing new with that approach.



Peter

 

The C6 Corvette intercooled twin turbo system will be of a very similar design and will package just as neatly, what your opinion?

Peter

 

that looks great. what type of headers are you using stock manifolds or are you making customs. what kind of price would gto owners and vette owners be looking at. any numbers or time yet from the gto.

 

Pete,

I seriously doubt that you guys are going to be welcome here...does Dave Inall still work for APS? He ripped a lot of LS1 f-body guys off a couple of years ago, which I am sure that you know....

 

Looks good. How much $$ and what are the kit options?

Any dyno or track numbers yet? What size turbos?

Mark

 

On LS1 GTO they said he still works there. I don't think Dave (Mr Incon) will recieve much kudos on this forum. Wonder if he will pay those customers back....

Jose

 

yeah its too bad, that a GREAT product is going to be unsuccessful due to one persons mistakes.

If dave is just the designer then I say give em a chance, but i would want to know the extent of Inalls involvement.

And wouldnt consider anything other than COD, only after each part has been matched to the parts list.
ed

 

LOL Jose, I think that there is a better chance of $100s falling out of the sky!

 

Ni resist cast turbo manifolds on the GTO intercooled twin turbo.
The GTO tuner intercooled twin turbo will be just under $Xk, this includes all of the harware required for the install other than the fuel system (fuel pump and injectors) and the engine tuning can be provided by any specialist tuning shop with the appropraite software. The C6 Corvette intercooled twin turbo info will be available in approx 3 months time.
With a good sized fuel system and 93 octane fuel around 550 - 600 WHP would be expected from the stock LS2 engine with a low back pressure exhaust (twin 3 inch is recommended) and with lower comp forged pistons and higher boost pressure approx 700 - 750 WHP should be possible.

Peter

 

If INCON had charged this price (closer to what its worth) then they would prolly still be around today. But they didnt, and unfortunatly for APS they have to suffer for what Dave did.

It really is too bad, and xk is spendy for a turbo kit, spendy, spendy, if the vette kit was priced like this I could understand, but the GTO kit?????

there isnt a GTO tax that I know of

ed

 

Why? What did APS do that is has to pay for a persons past mistakes that APS has no previous knowledge of prior to his employment at APS?
Same LS2 engine in both the GTO and Corvette and therefore a similar amount of technology and parts involved in both twin turbo systems.

 

Please, the performance market is a small one, that is how so many people knew that Inall was at APS to begin with. You don't honestly expect us to believe that APS had no knowledge of the reasons that Incon Systems failed, do you?

INTERVIEWER: 'So, why did you decide to close down Incon?'

INALL: 'Well, it was just so wildly successful that I decided to return to my roots...'



Look at things from the LS1 community perspective...you are employing someone that ripped off f-body owners and mustang owners for a lot of $$$. Did you think that was going to go over well?

 

I can't see why APS should be penalized because of the past actions of an employee. Give me a break.

$xx isn't cheap, but, once you factor in all of the costs in a *complete* setup it's not unreasonable at all. Why would the GTO kit be less expensvive than the Corvette kit if it is the same hardware?

Mark

 

I never said that APS would have to pay for daves past mistakes, I just said you would most likely suffer for Daves past mistakes.

just think of the similiarties, Company from Au, Dave works there, when people loose their hard earned money they are mad and they tell everyone that will listen. Look at me for example, I didnt loose a dime, but I would hesitate to buy from you just based on others experiences.

I wish you the best of luck, just relize its going to be a uphill battle for you, once you delivery several complete kits id bet youll come through just fine
ed

 

APS has been around building other turbo kits for some time. I have customer's who are into the sport compact market, and they are well aware of APS, as they have dealt with APS for their cars. These customers had nothing but good things to say regarding their experiences with APS, which made me feel much better regarding dealing with a company that is located so far away. Bob

 

Well I hope that not the case as that imho would be very unfair to APS given that APS had zero knowledge or involvement in his past business dealings.
Thanks for those kind words and I'm confident that in time APS engineering and FI products will earn the respect of GM consumers.

Peter

 

If you make a great product at a reasonable price and prove to be a propt & honest supplier, you will sell many of these systems.

Good luck with your products!