Stock Motor'd Vortech 9 lb dynos 500rwhp at Speed Inc!
04-18-2002, 01:35 PM
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Stock Motor'd Vortech 9 lb dynos 500rwhp at Speed Inc! Speed Inc. dynoed a M6 car with the Vortech SQ, the quiet one. Car has headers, no cats, and catback. With pcm tuning by Brian from BV Performance, Speed Inc. was able to pull 502rwhp from this car! I think the torque was 486. AF ratio was about 12.5:1.
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04-19-2002, 02:03 AM
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Re: Stock Motor'd Vortech 9 lb dynos 500rwhp at Speed Inc! Is that with a V-9 G-trim unit (Retrimed to SQ or something if that's even possible) or are you talking about a V-2 SQ-trim unit. If its the latter I wonder how they mounted the headunit. I'm trying to figure out how to do a V-1 T-Trim maybe even a V-7 YS-trim for big blower wow factor and the fact that it'll be good for 1000+ hp. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
In any case I wonder if they'll make a kit if it really is the V-2 SQ-trim.
In any case I wonder if they'll make a kit if it really is the V-2 SQ-trim.
04-19-2002, 03:54 PM
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Re: Stock Motor'd Vortech 9 lb dynos 500rwhp at Speed Inc! It's just the traditional SQ head unit as supplied in the regular kit.
No boost gauge on the car.
9lb pulley as supplied in the regular kit.
Inline fuel pump, SLP headers and cats, and Corsa catback.
No boost gauge on the car.
9lb pulley as supplied in the regular kit.
Inline fuel pump, SLP headers and cats, and Corsa catback.
04-19-2002, 07:32 PM
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Re: Stock Motor'd Vortech 9 lb dynos 500rwhp at Speed Inc! Those are the best numbers i've seen. It must be dialed in perfectly. I hope mine is close to that.
04-19-2002, 09:24 PM
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Re: Stock Motor'd Vortech 9 lb dynos 500rwhp at Speed Inc! Ok, I made 506/489 with an Ed Wright pcm, and I have heads and a cam also! I'm going from 6 speed to Auto, so I think I will get mine tuned by BV. There's got to be a few more ponies in there somewhere!
04-19-2002, 10:54 PM
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Re: Stock Motor'd Vortech 9 lb dynos 500rwhp at Speed Inc! I am confused.. There are people running stock heads and cam and they dyno 470rwhp plus and people with H/C packages only dyno'ing 40 to 60rwhp more.. The #'s do not add up.. I would think 550rwhp plus with H/C compared to the 470rwhp stock h/c.. Actually there should be atleast a 100rwhp gap between the two if the combo is setup right with the same boost levels. Otherwise the investment of a H/C package and FI would not be worth it.. Building a stronger bottom end would be a better investment..
04-20-2002, 02:15 AM
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Re: Stock Motor'd Vortech 9 lb dynos 500rwhp at Speed Inc! The car better have heads and cam to, cause if not than i have to say: <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" />
04-20-2002, 02:58 PM
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Re: Stock Motor'd Vortech 9 lb dynos 500rwhp at Speed Inc! I agree Mellow.. I just need the #'s to add up.. H/C cars just last year were only dyno'ing 430rwhp with 3.42's and now we have cars dyno'ing 440 plus rwhp with 4.11's.. Even the A4's are dyno'ing what old M6 cars use to dyno.. Now this has rolled over into the FI section.. Stock ls1's with 9psi are dyno'ing the same as last years H/C cars with 9psi.. Hmmmmm...
04-20-2002, 04:10 PM
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Re: Stock Motor'd Vortech 9 lb dynos 500rwhp at Speed Inc! CoopDog, was that tuned on a dyno by Ed? If it's mail order you just can't compare the two. Not fair to compare dynotune to finger in the air programming by mail order.
BV tried to get more HP out of ProStockJohns car and ended up (after LOTS of dyno runs) with less overall HP and some waves in the overall HP graph. Id be interested Coop in pulling out your LS1 file and taking a look at it myself. Probably just pouring too much fuel into the motor at WOT...or maybe not enough.
Let me know....
BV tried to get more HP out of ProStockJohns car and ended up (after LOTS of dyno runs) with less overall HP and some waves in the overall HP graph. Id be interested Coop in pulling out your LS1 file and taking a look at it myself. Probably just pouring too much fuel into the motor at WOT...or maybe not enough.
Let me know....
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Re: Stock Motor'd Vortech 9 lb dynos 500rwhp at Speed Inc! The car better have heads and cam to, cause if not than i have to say <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> as stated above
SORRY!no BS here,00 WS6 M6 w/stock H/C,SLP LT's w/cats,Corsa catback,and 10bolt w/3.42 gear and dyno tuning by BV PERFORMANCE.
We are doing a 98 WS6 this week and will have BV Performance tune it and I am sure it will prove these #'s are correct.I am sure it will be a little off since all cars are not the same.
I will post results when available
<small>[ April 20, 2002, 04:16 PM: Message edited by: LS1 SPEED INC. ]</small>
SORRY!no BS here,00 WS6 M6 w/stock H/C,SLP LT's w/cats,Corsa catback,and 10bolt w/3.42 gear and dyno tuning by BV PERFORMANCE.
We are doing a 98 WS6 this week and will have BV Performance tune it and I am sure it will prove these #'s are correct.I am sure it will be a little off since all cars are not the same.
I will post results when available
<small>[ April 20, 2002, 04:16 PM: Message edited by: LS1 SPEED INC. ]</small>
04-20-2002, 06:04 PM
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Re: Stock Motor'd Vortech 9 lb dynos 500rwhp at Speed Inc! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by MelloYellow:
<strong>Nice to see the headers and hi-flow or no-cat setup #'s.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">yes it is, I believe a fair comparison turbo vs. blower, if the blower car has headers, and both cars have a catback. I think youll see pound for pound the blowers are pretty close to the turbos, but the area under the curve I think is where turbos accel.
<strong>Nice to see the headers and hi-flow or no-cat setup #'s.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">yes it is, I believe a fair comparison turbo vs. blower, if the blower car has headers, and both cars have a catback. I think youll see pound for pound the blowers are pretty close to the turbos, but the area under the curve I think is where turbos accel.
04-20-2002, 06:10 PM
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Re: Stock Motor'd Vortech 9 lb dynos 500rwhp at Speed Inc! Also, morgan motorsports did a car with a vortech, heads and cam here is the dyno graph. http://www.mmsracing.com/dyno_charts...ressor650b.gif
592 at the wheels.
592 at the wheels.
04-21-2002, 12:01 AM
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Re: Stock Motor'd Vortech 9 lb dynos 500rwhp at Speed Inc! how stock was it? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
That's the Vortech kit I was looking into buying until the shop told me it would break the rear axle. I can see he wasn't kidding! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
That's the Vortech kit I was looking into buying until the shop told me it would break the rear axle. I can see he wasn't kidding! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />