For anyone with a turbo
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For anyone with a turbo How much was the shipping weight of your turbo kit and how much weight worth of stuff did you end up replaced, I'd like to know how much weight it adds.
For some reason I've noticed a trend of way too high hp for their trap time for turbo ls1s. Does anyone know why this is?
For some reason I've noticed a trend of way too high hp for their trap time for turbo ls1s. Does anyone know why this is?
Re: For anyone with a turbo I dont know exactly what mine weighs. My 2000 ws6 is about 3500lbs (without me)with full exhaust and stock wheels with the turbotech kit. I did remove the front sway bar...jack and spare...along with the egr and A.I.R. stuff as well
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Re: For anyone with a turbo There are people that have run high 9s with low 5xx rwhp like the colonel, yet its seems to take up to 700rwhp to get a turbo ls1 into the 9s. I'm also comparing two a4s with Torque converters.
Lots of hp is good but if it's all dyno and no go then I'll choose a different route. If it only adds about 100 lbs then I'll consider one.
I really don't want to prove the fbodys are just big fat overweight cars theory for the ricers.
I want a sub 3000 lb car and I'd also like a single turbo, is this possible?
I don't see how the turbo kit could even weigh 100 lbs, but who knows.
Lots of hp is good but if it's all dyno and no go then I'll choose a different route. If it only adds about 100 lbs then I'll consider one.
I really don't want to prove the fbodys are just big fat overweight cars theory for the ricers.
I want a sub 3000 lb car and I'd also like a single turbo, is this possible?
I don't see how the turbo kit could even weigh 100 lbs, but who knows.
Re: For anyone with a turbo Competing with the Ricers I see.. You have to take into consideration that Colonels car is stripped almost completely.. His power to weight is awesome.. If Colonel was to put a turbo setup in his car he would run a lot faster.. Possibly be in the 8's.. Now the Turbo cars that you speak of that dyno 700rwhp and run in the 9's are pretty damn close to 3800lbs.. Those turbo cars have full interior, etc... With that out of the way.. Strip your car down to nothing and put the same motor that Rob Raymer has in it.. Have the same converter, gears, tires, and suspension and see what happens...
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Re: For anyone with a turbo Just speaking of the Incon setup it adds about 100 lbs to the car. The turbos are heavy and it uses cast manifolds, dump pipes, and a cast piece that we call the "Butt Pipe". Of course there are two intercoolers.
I am predicting that my car will be up towards 3800 lb, possibly a little heavier. Of course I have a fully loaded TA. This week replacing the a-arms and k-member, so that should help reduce the weight by about 35 lbs.
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I am predicting that my car will be up towards 3800 lb, possibly a little heavier. Of course I have a fully loaded TA. This week replacing the a-arms and k-member, so that should help reduce the weight by about 35 lbs.
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Re: For anyone with a turbo </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by VINCE:
<strong>Competing with the Ricers I see.. You have to take into consideration that Colonels car is stripped almost completely.. His power to weight is awesome.. If Colonel was to put a turbo setup in his car he would run a lot faster.. Possibly be in the 8's.. Now the Turbo cars that you speak of that dyno 700rwhp and run in the 9's are pretty damn close to 3800lbs.. Those turbo cars have full interior, etc... With that out of the way.. Strip your car down to nothing and put the same motor that Rob Raymer has in it.. Have the same converter, gears, tires, and suspension and see what happens...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What he said. ^^
Plane and simple.. You can't compare horsepower and ET with 2 cars that have about 1000 pounds in weight difference, and wonder why one runs about the same et as the other with less power. Robs car is about 3800+ lbs. Colonel's car is in the 2800 or 2900 pound range.
<strong>Competing with the Ricers I see.. You have to take into consideration that Colonels car is stripped almost completely.. His power to weight is awesome.. If Colonel was to put a turbo setup in his car he would run a lot faster.. Possibly be in the 8's.. Now the Turbo cars that you speak of that dyno 700rwhp and run in the 9's are pretty damn close to 3800lbs.. Those turbo cars have full interior, etc... With that out of the way.. Strip your car down to nothing and put the same motor that Rob Raymer has in it.. Have the same converter, gears, tires, and suspension and see what happens...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What he said. ^^
Plane and simple.. You can't compare horsepower and ET with 2 cars that have about 1000 pounds in weight difference, and wonder why one runs about the same et as the other with less power. Robs car is about 3800+ lbs. Colonel's car is in the 2800 or 2900 pound range.
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Re: For anyone with a turbo </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by VINCE:
<strong>Competing with the Ricers I see.. You have to take into consideration that Colonels car is stripped almost completely.. His power to weight is awesome.. If Colonel was to put a turbo setup in his car he would run a lot faster.. Possibly be in the 8's.. Now the Turbo cars that you speak of that dyno 700rwhp and run in the 9's are pretty damn close to 3800lbs.. Those turbo cars have full interior, etc... With that out of the way.. Strip your car down to nothing and put the same motor that Rob Raymer has in it.. Have the same converter, gears, tires, and suspension and see what happens...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What he said. ^^
Plane and simple.. You can't compare horsepower and ET with 2 cars that have about 1000 pounds in weight difference, and wonder why one runs about the same et as the other with less power. Robs car is about 3800+ lbs. Colonel's car is in the 2800 or 2900 pound range.
<strong>Competing with the Ricers I see.. You have to take into consideration that Colonels car is stripped almost completely.. His power to weight is awesome.. If Colonel was to put a turbo setup in his car he would run a lot faster.. Possibly be in the 8's.. Now the Turbo cars that you speak of that dyno 700rwhp and run in the 9's are pretty damn close to 3800lbs.. Those turbo cars have full interior, etc... With that out of the way.. Strip your car down to nothing and put the same motor that Rob Raymer has in it.. Have the same converter, gears, tires, and suspension and see what happens...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What he said. ^^
Plane and simple.. You can't compare horsepower and ET with 2 cars that have about 1000 pounds in weight difference, and wonder why one runs about the same et as the other with less power. Robs car is about 3800+ lbs. Colonel's car is in the 2800 or 2900 pound range.
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Re: For anyone with a turbo My car weighed 3400 lbs. before my turbo install and 3580 lbs. after. It's a freakin' pig now. At the same time as the turbo instal I added subframe connectors and a 12-bolt rear. If you go turbo they are both items I would highly recomend. The turbos added about 100 lbs., as stated in earlier post, the 12-bolt about 50 and the subframes about 30. My car is a '98 WS-6 with a lightweight (no muffler) loudmouth exhaust and no backseat. It still has all of the rest of the factory amenities.
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Re: For anyone with a turbo </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Rpm2800:
<strong>Plane and simple.. You can't compare horsepower and ET with 2 cars that have about 1000 pounds in weight difference, and wonder why one runs about the same et as the other with less power. Robs car is about 3800+ lbs. Colonel's car is in the 2800 or 2900 pound range.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">the point was weight in the first place. I'd like to have a light weight car with a turbo. 3800 lbs is just out of control
<strong>Plane and simple.. You can't compare horsepower and ET with 2 cars that have about 1000 pounds in weight difference, and wonder why one runs about the same et as the other with less power. Robs car is about 3800+ lbs. Colonel's car is in the 2800 or 2900 pound range.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">the point was weight in the first place. I'd like to have a light weight car with a turbo. 3800 lbs is just out of control
Re: For anyone with a turbo The f-body period is a heavy car.. W/out driver you are already tipping the scales over 3400lbs. Add a full tank and you are over 3500lbs. Add driver and you are between 3650lbs and 3750lbs depending on the weight of the driver.. No one said you have to use a F-body to make your drag car.. Buy a 88 or 89 Fox body notchback and strip it and put TT's on it.. Recipe for a ultimate street machine.. I personally just like the way the f-body looks.. I never planned on spending 32k to strip the car down.. I could have chose a much lighter car if drag racing was my only concern..