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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 06:12 PM
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I'd rather go forged first simply because I will wish I could run more boost if I didn't.
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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Yea im thinking the same. Im kinda ruling out the H/C/spray due to a few facts..... all the f-bodys around here are going that route. and plus, once u go heads/cam and 150 shot, your about done with that block for power and that power is only there once the bottle is full. Plus i dont want to have to keep refilling the bottle and dont know of any fill palces around here. I am thinking of going withthe $4500 package from exotic first and forging my bottom end and cam and maybe ported heads. So for now i will still have more power with the mild heads and cam while i save for the FI kit. Than i will upgrade my 4l60-e to stage 3, thorw on a 12 bolt than get the turbo kit. I am pretty set on that and get about a 8:5 comp ratio when i forge the bottom end and run about 13psi o nthe turbo for about 650 hp hoping and 10s. Now the question is.... what turbo set up......

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reliability is #1 and ease of kit
and decent price. What do ya suggest. Thinking about t76 turbo.
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Originally Posted by WS-Sick
I'd rather go forged first simply because I will wish I could run more boost if I didn't.
There's no doubt that's the better choice.


I can't do it though!

I neeed boost NOW
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 07:02 PM
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Yea im thinking the same. Im kinda ruling out the H/C/spray due to a few facts..... all the f-bodys around here are going that route. and plus, once u go heads/cam and 150 shot, your about done with that block for power and that power is only there once the bottle is full. Plus i dont want to have to keep refilling the bottle and dont know of any fill palces around here. I am thinking of going withthe $4500 package from exotic first and forging my bottom end and cam and maybe ported heads. So for now i will still have more power with the mild heads and cam while i save for the FI kit. Than i will upgrade my 4l60-e to stage 3, thorw on a 12 bolt than get the turbo kit. I am pretty set on that and get about a 8:5 comp ratio when i forge the bottom end and run about 13psi o nthe turbo for about 650 hp hoping and 10s. Now the question is.... what turbo set up......

I would like AC but isnt a must.
reliability is #1 and ease of kit
and decent price. What do ya suggest. Thinking about t76 turbo.
That's a good plan.
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 07:07 PM
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smart man there,see i had the right idea.lol
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 07:07 PM
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yep, sounds good, thinking of the amount of cash im gunna drop into a toy is going to make me sick tho, haha, oh well! Def worth it! 650 power on hand! oh man i cant wait!
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i been waiting since march!lol but itll be worth it in the end.
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 07:14 PM
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Thanks for the comment. Smart is def the way to go when dealing with such costly parts. Better do it right the first time..... Turbo kit suggestions?
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 07:22 PM
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if u could get an older Phamspeed kit thats good and cheap....otherwise Hi Flo Turbos are the way to go.
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 07:46 PM
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What about TTi? Which kit and what makes it better than the others?
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 05:33 AM
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Any suggestions for kit? Also exotic.... how about that estimate?
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 05:50 AM
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Exotic, PM sent. Also guys, for trans.... Im gunna need to upgrade.... i have stock 4l60-e now. I was thinking Dr Evil stage 3 4l60-e. Or how much is an M6 swap? Is it way more than a Dr. Evil Stage 3, is it worth it? What would you suggest i do and why?
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 07:57 AM
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beprepared to spend about 4500 on your drive train....

I've spent about 15,000 on my car and the only "pretty" mod i have is a fiber glass hood.... which is weight savings any ways

and the only internal mod i have is a cam, 921 sprink kit and some pushrods....

its very expensive....

this winter i plan to drop another 7k for a forged motor.... if i have enough left over ill check out some hiflo stuff..

but like they say "he who has the most $ goes the fastest"
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 01:52 PM
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Yea i def know that, 12 bolt for sure and not sure what i want to do with trans???? Get a stage 3 4l60e, m6 swap (how much does this cost?) or any other suggestions?
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 01:59 PM
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If you get the bottom end forged and go for 8.5-1 compression I dont think your gonna be that happy with the results until you get that turbo or FI on it. Id say have ExoticPP forge for bottom end and go with you stock head and a big cam for now. Then save for some afr 225's or some stage 3 6.0 liter heads so you can then lower your compression which would be boost friendly. If you go for 8.5-1 right now without the FI your gonna be losing HP, especially if you stay with the stock cam and sotck heads.
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Weekend Driver/Light Track Use: M6/Auto (M6 more)

Weekend Driver/Moderate Track Use: M6/Auto

Strictly Track: Auto

Street Racing: M6

Daily Driver: M6/Auto (Auto more, M6 in traffic gets old)

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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 02:03 PM
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Yea i was thinking that. Maybe i should jsut save up enuff so i can do it all at once, build my drivetrain first, than save to built motor/turbo at same time?
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Yea if you can wait id wait. I mean it will be cheaper to do it all at once, but if you cant wait id say get whatever turbo kit your lookin at and install that and run low boost (maybe 6-7 PSI) with a real good tune and just dont do any hard launches on the street/strip until you have some money for a 12-bolt (occassional launch is ok but too many and the 10-bolt will be toast). Then once you have the money forge your bottom end on your block and get some good heads and a turbo/FI cam (although from what I hear the stock cam is a pretty decent FI cam as it stands). That would be my suggestion if you cant wait. If you do decide to forge the bottom end first, thats fine, you can do that with a good sized cam, say an FM13 (which is what im waiting for to install) and stay with your stock heads and you should be around 400rwhp, which should tide you over until you get the turbo kit. Then lower your compression with some 225 afrs or stage 3 6.0 liter heads so you can get your compresion down to a boost friendly 8.5-9.5 to 1 compression and you will be good to go. Haha its all in how long you can wait (this is coming from one of the most impatient people probably on this board).
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 02:56 PM
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Yea, well im still deciding which route i want to take........ motor first, turbo first...... I think turbo first would be more cost efficient but may not be very reliable on stock motor..... i mean cuzn if i built motor first, than got turbo, it would cost a lot more for install on cam and heads again as if he did it when motor was pulled to forge it, hes not charging me installation......
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True, you will be paying for the motor to be worked on internally twice if you forge the engine first. Honestly, if you look around the board there are a decent amount of guys running prochargers and turbo kits (with low boost) on a stock bottom end. If you get a real good tune, which exotic performance plus is more than capable of providing you then id go with a turbo kit and run like 6 psi if your nervous (the new hi-flo system street killer kit looks real nice) and just dont go ***** to the wall at every stop light and through every gear and your stock bottom end and 10-bolt should hold on.
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