Quickin

Just wondering, I'd like to check it out.

VINCE

iTrader: (1)

Thats a good question.. The only problem with FI and LS1... People want the baddest setup, b4 we can even get a regular setup running right.. We need reliable setups guys.. Just because someone can produce big dyno #'s one day does not mean the setup is going to last.. Remember.. We beat the hell out of our cars.. Lets take one step at a time..

Quickin

Sounds reasonable.

I was just wondering because I spoke with Nick Agostino a few weeks ago about there F1 package for F-Bodies. He's gotten 950 RWHP/ 1000+ RWTQ out of one and he say's it's very streetable. It was a supercharged stroker, BTW.

I'm interested in one.

ZYA_LTR

Yes, there is no problem with the fitting of an F1 in an F-Body, the Blower case itself is dimensionally almost the same as a D1, the only problem, is that it is not really a kit intended for a stock motor, as it requires somewhere between 200-300 hp just to spin an F1, so it requires a decent amount of money to fund the project. A buddy of mine is in the process of building a 427 C-5R motor with a F-3R, and a huge air/water intercooler mounted in the cowl. Alot of fabrication and work, i think he might be leaning towards ditching the project, which sucks cause he's already a$$hole deep into it.

1dirtyZ

iTrader: (1)

i was under the impression that the F1 pushes 1525 CFM and the D1 pushes 1400 CFM ... where did the 6000 CFM come from??

WEASEL

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Quickin:
<strong>Sounds reasonable.

I was just wondering because I spoke with Nick Agostino a few weeks ago about there F1 package for F-Bodies. He's gotten 950 RWHP/ 1000+ RWTQ out of one and he say's it's very streetable. It was a supercharged stroker, BTW.

I'm interested in one.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I believe Tom Byrne (sponsor) was putting an F1 on his car wasn't he?

Maybe he could give you some insight. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

qqwqeqwrqwqtq

200-300hp to spin an F1?

F1=6,000 CFM????

Quickin

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by ZYA_LTR:
it requires somewhere between 200-300 hp just to spin an F1[/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If I do it, it will sit on top of a fully built ARE 436ci like the one I have now.

ZYA_LTR

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by ZYA_LTR:
<strong> as it requires somewhere between 200-300 hp just to spin an F1</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">My bad i was thinking of the F-3R that is going on my buddies C-5R...The F-3R pushes 3800 cfm and would take around 200/300hp to push it, the D1 pushes 1400/ and the F1 pushes 1525 about, so the F1 is definetely a viable option for a stock motor, if you are looking to that big, you might even consider an F3?

Quickin

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by ZYA_LTR:
The F-3R pushes 3800 cfm and would take around 200/300hp to push it, the D1 pushes 1400/ and the F1 pushes 1525 about, so the F1 is definetely a viable option for a stock motor, if you are looking to that big, you might even consider an F3?[/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, simply put, what is the biggest and baddest one out there? Does F3 have a website? I'd like to start researching this whole thing.

Black LS1 T/A

http://www.procharger.com/models.shtml

As far as Procharger goes, the F4 Series is it:

Motor must have a base horsepower level of 700-1100 NA
Max Supercharged HP is 2300

Max Flow is 4300 cfm / Max Boost 32 PSI

Max Impeller RPM is 50,000

tbyrne

iTrader: (15)

I'm running the the ATI F1 and making 18# of boost. The car dynoed around 630 at ARE's a couple of months ago. They said that was the highest number they saw out of a supercharged LS1 with a 4L60-E so I'll have to call them about the 950hp number <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> It's now make 672 and my goal is 700 before hitting the spray. The car should be heading to the track in a couple of weeks.

Tom

SuperSport2000

I am running the F1 with a stock bottom end and a cam. I am making 10psi of boost. I will have dyno numbers in the next two weeks.

1slowCamaro

Are you saying that it takes 200-300 HP to just spin the supercharger? So lets say you had a car with 400HP and you put that blower on it. That thing is going to suck 300 HP away from the wheels as in parasitic power loss? If so maybe thats why some prefer turbos. How much does a D-1 take?

Justin

Black LS1 T/A

Let me put it this way....

I don't know if my D-1SC uses 50 HP or 500 in parastic losses...

The net result is I went from 296 to 486 RWHP and 345 RWTQ to 487 RWTQ!

That works for me. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

1slowCamaro

Yeah mike you bastard. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> Some of us...ok me, have not had that much luck. But I'm trying to figure it out. Your numbers never cease to amaze me. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />

Justin

Black LS1 T/A

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

There are others doing it, with GWP's kit.

Jason@GWP helped me get from an initial 405 RWHP to 486. I could have probably gotten more, over 500+, with some more tweaking, but I feel the stock motor just would not hold up to the brute power.

Hopefully, this Iron-Block 422 will handle the goods. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

Quickin

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 1slowCamaro:
<strong>Are you saying that it takes 200-300 HP to just spin the supercharger? So lets say you had a car with 400HP and you put that blower on it. That thing is going to suck 300 HP away from the wheels as in parasitic power loss? If so maybe thats why some prefer turbos. How much does a D-1 take?

Justin</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I don't know much about SC, but that just can't be how things work. For every unit of HP needed to do the spinning, you get allot more in return HP, just my thought on how it works!