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Re: YOU GOT TO SEE THIS! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by ONEBADWS6:
<strong>Come on guys this is a street car on 17inch Nitto's, I was impressed, yes it has alot of work done but for a ruff tune and only 7-8 psi on a 15 psi setup I think it's great. If you guys are inpressed by that formula how can you put down this car. Buy the time it see's 15psi and a slick it will probably see 9's. But it seems every one here is a dyno warrior. If dyno's matter I would be in 9's but I am not.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">it must be a really rough tune, that many cubes and 7-8 PSI should be in the mid 600 rwhp range alreeady tuned right of course and a sheetmetal intake? maybe high 600s. like I said too many unknowns about the car. what does the cars timing look like? what does it dyno now? a 1.6 60 ft. seems like its getting some decent traction.
<strong>Come on guys this is a street car on 17inch Nitto's, I was impressed, yes it has alot of work done but for a ruff tune and only 7-8 psi on a 15 psi setup I think it's great. If you guys are inpressed by that formula how can you put down this car. Buy the time it see's 15psi and a slick it will probably see 9's. But it seems every one here is a dyno warrior. If dyno's matter I would be in 9's but I am not.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">it must be a really rough tune, that many cubes and 7-8 PSI should be in the mid 600 rwhp range alreeady tuned right of course and a sheetmetal intake? maybe high 600s. like I said too many unknowns about the car. what does the cars timing look like? what does it dyno now? a 1.6 60 ft. seems like its getting some decent traction.
Re: YOU GOT TO SEE THIS! 1.6 on a 10.7@128.66 is traction, with that mph if it hooked your looking at 10.20's. The sheetmetal intake has not been proven to help any, they are considering going back to a LS6 intake. Also that many cubes yes but with 8.5-1 compression, notice I said 7-8psi on a 15psi sett up. THe Speed crew is trying new things to make the most power for forced applications. As for the tune, can you drive your car to the track 70 miles in rush hour trafic and run 10.7's just by letting air out of your Nitto's? Instead of bashing these guys why don't you complement them on trying new things, like making a custom fuel system, intake, ect.
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Re: YOU GOT TO SEE THIS! I think thats pretty impressive, its still a really heavy car...when they get the tuning figured out and up the boost it will run 10.0's probably with its current weight, Imagine if they put some slicks/skinnies on it and then dropped 500 pounds... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
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Re: YOU GOT TO SEE THIS! this car is riddled with lots of "WHAT IFS"
sorry man.. that time and mph is not impressive at all for that kind of setup... if it had no FI then i could see it... my little 346 does 10.70's with just h/c and a 100 shot full weight.... im sure i can get into the nines if i upped the shot and dropped 500lbs... but those are "what ifs"
if you wanna talk the times... run the times...
dont sit here and bs about tires, weight, nos, and boost...
sorry man.. that time and mph is not impressive at all for that kind of setup... if it had no FI then i could see it... my little 346 does 10.70's with just h/c and a 100 shot full weight.... im sure i can get into the nines if i upped the shot and dropped 500lbs... but those are "what ifs"
if you wanna talk the times... run the times...
dont sit here and bs about tires, weight, nos, and boost...
Re: YOU GOT TO SEE THIS! If you guys had sat in traffic behind the SOM car you would see how well it idles.
128mph on pump gas is pretty good.
I know the Speed crew is getting a cogged setup since the belts slip so much and they plan to run 15 lbs of boost and flat 10's on drag radials which I think they can pull off.
128mph on pump gas is pretty good.
I know the Speed crew is getting a cogged setup since the belts slip so much and they plan to run 15 lbs of boost and flat 10's on drag radials which I think they can pull off.
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Re: YOU GOT TO SEE THIS! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by nysbadmk8:
<strong>this car is riddled with lots of "WHAT IFS"
sorry man.. that time and mph is not impressive at all for that kind of setup... if it had no FI then i could see it... my little 346 does 10.70's with just h/c and a 100 shot full weight.... im sure i can get into the nines if i upped the shot and dropped 500lbs... but those are "what ifs"
if you wanna talk the times... run the times...
dont sit here and bs about tires, weight, nos, and boost...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You just run your mouth a lot. Ill tell you about the car. One by one.
The hood is black because its a fiberglass hood, it IS coming off the car.
It has a MILD tune and Mild means its NOT tuned right. Its putting only HALF the boost its capable of. Its on a 17 inch nitto and it spun the **** out of it. It in my opinion is capable of some 1.3 sixty foots with a 28 on it. It is pretty much full weight at 3600 something with driver. For the person that said hes not impressed because it doesnt have ABS or AC....I know of a LOT of race cars AND street cars that have neither so what IS your point? When the cars weight is reduced by about 500 lbs, a GOOD tune is done, 15 PSI is applied and its on slicks and skinnies, you might be looking at the fastest LS1 in the country.
Oh, and if you knew anything about boost applications you would know that is VERY impressive on just 93 octane. Imagine if on top of EVERYTHING I just told you, they sprayed a little shot at it also.....I bet it would land on your car as well as ARE's new setups....
<small>[ September 16, 2002, 06:40 PM: Message edited by: minty ]</small>
<strong>this car is riddled with lots of "WHAT IFS"
sorry man.. that time and mph is not impressive at all for that kind of setup... if it had no FI then i could see it... my little 346 does 10.70's with just h/c and a 100 shot full weight.... im sure i can get into the nines if i upped the shot and dropped 500lbs... but those are "what ifs"
if you wanna talk the times... run the times...
dont sit here and bs about tires, weight, nos, and boost...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You just run your mouth a lot. Ill tell you about the car. One by one.
The hood is black because its a fiberglass hood, it IS coming off the car.
It has a MILD tune and Mild means its NOT tuned right. Its putting only HALF the boost its capable of. Its on a 17 inch nitto and it spun the **** out of it. It in my opinion is capable of some 1.3 sixty foots with a 28 on it. It is pretty much full weight at 3600 something with driver. For the person that said hes not impressed because it doesnt have ABS or AC....I know of a LOT of race cars AND street cars that have neither so what IS your point? When the cars weight is reduced by about 500 lbs, a GOOD tune is done, 15 PSI is applied and its on slicks and skinnies, you might be looking at the fastest LS1 in the country.
Oh, and if you knew anything about boost applications you would know that is VERY impressive on just 93 octane. Imagine if on top of EVERYTHING I just told you, they sprayed a little shot at it also.....I bet it would land on your car as well as ARE's new setups....
<small>[ September 16, 2002, 06:40 PM: Message edited by: minty ]</small>
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Re: YOU GOT TO SEE THIS! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Nickn20:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by PewterZ:
<strong>http://www.horsepowerstore.com/page.asp?id=1
This what I'm talking about...All that power was made from the Stock 346 and stock bottom end...
10.15 @140</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">a 150 shot was needed to run those times, im impressed the motor held together but thats about it.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This is a 414 cube motor....If the HPS's shop car was a 414 it would run low 9's.
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by PewterZ:
<strong>http://www.horsepowerstore.com/page.asp?id=1
This what I'm talking about...All that power was made from the Stock 346 and stock bottom end...
10.15 @140</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">a 150 shot was needed to run those times, im impressed the motor held together but thats about it.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This is a 414 cube motor....If the HPS's shop car was a 414 it would run low 9's.
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Re: YOU GOT TO SEE THIS! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by ONEBADWS6:
<strong>1.6 on a 10.7@128.66 is traction, with that mph if it hooked your looking at 10.20's. The sheetmetal intake has not been proven to help any, they are considering going back to a LS6 intake. Also that many cubes yes but with 8.5-1 compression, notice I said 7-8psi on a 15psi sett up. THe Speed crew is trying new things to make the most power for forced applications. As for the tune, can you drive your car to the track 70 miles in rush hour trafic and run 10.7's just by letting air out of your Nitto's? Instead of bashing these guys why don't you complement them on trying new things, like making a custom fuel system, intake, ect.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">will it ever see 15 psi though? if they went with that compression I hope so, how much power can .5 make on a FI setup at 7-8 PSI? I think the tune is really off. yes its wonderful that they can drive to the track drop some air out of thier tires, and run a 10.7, but I have seen a local mustang drive to the track, drop some pressure and run 9.70@143 mph. he does it at least once or twice a month too, if not more. and its only 331 cubic inches. I'm not bashing I'm just questioning the setup is all. on 15 psi, I would guestimate mid 800 rwhp?
<strong>1.6 on a 10.7@128.66 is traction, with that mph if it hooked your looking at 10.20's. The sheetmetal intake has not been proven to help any, they are considering going back to a LS6 intake. Also that many cubes yes but with 8.5-1 compression, notice I said 7-8psi on a 15psi sett up. THe Speed crew is trying new things to make the most power for forced applications. As for the tune, can you drive your car to the track 70 miles in rush hour trafic and run 10.7's just by letting air out of your Nitto's? Instead of bashing these guys why don't you complement them on trying new things, like making a custom fuel system, intake, ect.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">will it ever see 15 psi though? if they went with that compression I hope so, how much power can .5 make on a FI setup at 7-8 PSI? I think the tune is really off. yes its wonderful that they can drive to the track drop some air out of thier tires, and run a 10.7, but I have seen a local mustang drive to the track, drop some pressure and run 9.70@143 mph. he does it at least once or twice a month too, if not more. and its only 331 cubic inches. I'm not bashing I'm just questioning the setup is all. on 15 psi, I would guestimate mid 800 rwhp?
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Re: YOU GOT TO SEE THIS! The tune is not way off. It is perfectly tuned for 93 octane and 8lbs of boost.
The original plan for the engine was to run 15-18lbs of boost. Since we are waiting for our cog pullies to be made we decided to take the car out and have some fun with it.
We just got the car on the road and the most miles it's ever seen was on the drive to the track. No we didn't break any records, but we thought what we ran was worth mentioning.
We are planning to try an LS6 intake with the current pulley setup to see if the sheetmetal intake is hurting or helping.
So I guess 10.7 @128 with a 414 8lbs of boost, 93 octane, 17in nittos, through the exhaust, and 3,600+ pounds is crawlin.
We'll have to see what it runs with the cog drive and a slick. If it doesn't run 9's I won't bore any of you with the results of our "slow" car.
The original plan for the engine was to run 15-18lbs of boost. Since we are waiting for our cog pullies to be made we decided to take the car out and have some fun with it.
We just got the car on the road and the most miles it's ever seen was on the drive to the track. No we didn't break any records, but we thought what we ran was worth mentioning.
We are planning to try an LS6 intake with the current pulley setup to see if the sheetmetal intake is hurting or helping.
So I guess 10.7 @128 with a 414 8lbs of boost, 93 octane, 17in nittos, through the exhaust, and 3,600+ pounds is crawlin.
We'll have to see what it runs with the cog drive and a slick. If it doesn't run 9's I won't bore any of you with the results of our "slow" car.
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Re: YOU GOT TO SEE THIS! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by PewterZ:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Nickn20:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by PewterZ:
<strong>http://www.horsepowerstore.com/page.asp?id=1
This what I'm talking about...All that power was made from the Stock 346 and stock bottom end...
10.15 @140</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">a 150 shot was needed to run those times, im impressed the motor held together but thats about it.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This is a 414 cube motor....If the HPS's shop car was a 414 it would run low 9's.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">lol
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Nickn20:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by PewterZ:
<strong>http://www.horsepowerstore.com/page.asp?id=1
This what I'm talking about...All that power was made from the Stock 346 and stock bottom end...
10.15 @140</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">a 150 shot was needed to run those times, im impressed the motor held together but thats about it.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This is a 414 cube motor....If the HPS's shop car was a 414 it would run low 9's.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">lol
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Re: YOU GOT TO SEE THIS! Is that the same car(HPS)I saw in Pontiac High Performance? Not very impressive at all. They only ran 1/8th mile anyway. No flames intended, just an opinion. It seems funny to me that someone posts their times, good or bad, so that other people can see the progression of building a vehicle up. As for this...
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">if you wanna talk the times... run the times...
dont sit here and bs about tires, weight, nos, and boost... </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">...That is all people do around here. It's not bs because everything counts towards better ET's. Your H/C+100 shot didn't happen on a Nitto. Better yet, it couldn't. You can't tell me that there aren't a hundred different variables when trying to make your car fast. I don't think you are giving this a realistic view.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This is a 414 cube motor....If the HPS's shop car was a 414 it would run low 9's. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">But if it didn't you'd probably bash it.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">will it ever see 15 psi though? if they went with that compression I hope so, how much power can .5 make on a FI setup at 7-8 PSI? I think the tune is really off. yes its wonderful that they can drive to the track drop some air out of thier tires, and run a 10.7, but I have seen a local mustang drive to the track, drop some pressure and run 9.70@143 mph. he does it at least once or twice a month too, if not more. and its only 331 cubic inches. I'm not bashing I'm just questioning the setup is all. on 15 psi, I would guestimate mid 800 rwhp? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, everyone knows a fast Mustang that can run miracles on small cube motor. I'm sure it weighed 4900lbs on stock suspension, running on a 235 GoodYear Aqua Tread. Apples to Apples, please.
Thank you for your time.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">if you wanna talk the times... run the times...
dont sit here and bs about tires, weight, nos, and boost... </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">...That is all people do around here. It's not bs because everything counts towards better ET's. Your H/C+100 shot didn't happen on a Nitto. Better yet, it couldn't. You can't tell me that there aren't a hundred different variables when trying to make your car fast. I don't think you are giving this a realistic view.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This is a 414 cube motor....If the HPS's shop car was a 414 it would run low 9's. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">But if it didn't you'd probably bash it.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">will it ever see 15 psi though? if they went with that compression I hope so, how much power can .5 make on a FI setup at 7-8 PSI? I think the tune is really off. yes its wonderful that they can drive to the track drop some air out of thier tires, and run a 10.7, but I have seen a local mustang drive to the track, drop some pressure and run 9.70@143 mph. he does it at least once or twice a month too, if not more. and its only 331 cubic inches. I'm not bashing I'm just questioning the setup is all. on 15 psi, I would guestimate mid 800 rwhp? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, everyone knows a fast Mustang that can run miracles on small cube motor. I'm sure it weighed 4900lbs on stock suspension, running on a 235 GoodYear Aqua Tread. Apples to Apples, please.
Thank you for your time.
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Re: YOU GOT TO SEE THIS! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Seandogg:
<strong>Is that the same car(HPS)I saw in Pontiac High Performance? Not very impressive at all. They only ran 1/8th mile anyway. No flames intended, just an opinion. It seems funny to me that someone posts their times, good or bad, so that other people can see the progression of building a vehicle up. As for this...
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">if you wanna talk the times... run the times...
dont sit here and bs about tires, weight, nos, and boost... </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">...That is all people do around here. It's not bs because everything counts towards better ET's. Your H/C+100 shot didn't happen on a Nitto. Better yet, it couldn't. You can't tell me that there aren't a hundred different variables when trying to make your car fast. I don't think you are giving this a realistic view.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This is a 414 cube motor....If the HPS's shop car was a 414 it would run low 9's. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">But if it didn't you'd probably bash it.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">will it ever see 15 psi though? if they went with that compression I hope so, how much power can .5 make on a FI setup at 7-8 PSI? I think the tune is really off. yes its wonderful that they can drive to the track drop some air out of thier tires, and run a 10.7, but I have seen a local mustang drive to the track, drop some pressure and run 9.70@143 mph. he does it at least once or twice a month too, if not more. and its only 331 cubic inches. I'm not bashing I'm just questioning the setup is all. on 15 psi, I would guestimate mid 800 rwhp? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, everyone knows a fast Mustang that can run miracles on small cube motor. I'm sure it weighed 4900lbs on stock suspension, running on a 235 GoodYear Aqua Tread. Apples to Apples, please.
Thank you for your time.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It ran 10.15 @ 140... In the QUARTER....
<strong>Is that the same car(HPS)I saw in Pontiac High Performance? Not very impressive at all. They only ran 1/8th mile anyway. No flames intended, just an opinion. It seems funny to me that someone posts their times, good or bad, so that other people can see the progression of building a vehicle up. As for this...
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">if you wanna talk the times... run the times...
dont sit here and bs about tires, weight, nos, and boost... </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">...That is all people do around here. It's not bs because everything counts towards better ET's. Your H/C+100 shot didn't happen on a Nitto. Better yet, it couldn't. You can't tell me that there aren't a hundred different variables when trying to make your car fast. I don't think you are giving this a realistic view.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This is a 414 cube motor....If the HPS's shop car was a 414 it would run low 9's. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">But if it didn't you'd probably bash it.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">will it ever see 15 psi though? if they went with that compression I hope so, how much power can .5 make on a FI setup at 7-8 PSI? I think the tune is really off. yes its wonderful that they can drive to the track drop some air out of thier tires, and run a 10.7, but I have seen a local mustang drive to the track, drop some pressure and run 9.70@143 mph. he does it at least once or twice a month too, if not more. and its only 331 cubic inches. I'm not bashing I'm just questioning the setup is all. on 15 psi, I would guestimate mid 800 rwhp? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, everyone knows a fast Mustang that can run miracles on small cube motor. I'm sure it weighed 4900lbs on stock suspension, running on a 235 GoodYear Aqua Tread. Apples to Apples, please.
Thank you for your time.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It ran 10.15 @ 140... In the QUARTER....
Re: YOU GOT TO SEE THIS! Let's keep it nice.
FWIW, some of you folks realize that you cannot compare the two at all, the HPS car went super fast but I'm sure they would agree that it's just a matter of a few runs before the stock bottom end would lose a ringland just from cylinder pressure.
The SOM car, well, 128mph in a street car in street trim on pump gas is pretty darn good. I bet the car picks up with an LS6 intake but we'll see.
FWIW, some of you folks realize that you cannot compare the two at all, the HPS car went super fast but I'm sure they would agree that it's just a matter of a few runs before the stock bottom end would lose a ringland just from cylinder pressure.
The SOM car, well, 128mph in a street car in street trim on pump gas is pretty darn good. I bet the car picks up with an LS6 intake but we'll see.
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Re: YOU GOT TO SEE THIS! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by minty:
<strong>You just run your mouth a lot. Ill tell you about the car. One by one.
The hood is black because its a fiberglass hood, it IS coming off the car.
It has a MILD tune and Mild means its NOT tuned right. Its putting only HALF the boost its capable of. Its on a 17 inch nitto and it spun the **** out of it. It in my opinion is capable of some 1.3 sixty foots with a 28 on it. It is pretty much full weight at 3600 something with driver. For the person that said hes not impressed because it doesnt have ABS or AC....I know of a LOT of race cars AND street cars that have neither so what IS your point? When the cars weight is reduced by about 500 lbs, a GOOD tune is done, 15 PSI is applied and its on slicks and skinnies, you might be looking at the fastest LS1 in the country.
Oh, and if you knew anything about boost applications you would know that is VERY impressive on just 93 octane. Imagine if on top of EVERYTHING I just told you, they sprayed a little shot at it also.....I bet it would land on your car as well as ARE's new setups....</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It wont get away with 15 psi on 93 octane. You ridicule someone else for posting about your IFs and then you bring up many more <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> That car is not impressive as it is right now, Tony Whatleys daily driven all motor no weight reduction stock-intaked non-forced induction car runs better times at the same trap...
<strong>You just run your mouth a lot. Ill tell you about the car. One by one.
The hood is black because its a fiberglass hood, it IS coming off the car.
It has a MILD tune and Mild means its NOT tuned right. Its putting only HALF the boost its capable of. Its on a 17 inch nitto and it spun the **** out of it. It in my opinion is capable of some 1.3 sixty foots with a 28 on it. It is pretty much full weight at 3600 something with driver. For the person that said hes not impressed because it doesnt have ABS or AC....I know of a LOT of race cars AND street cars that have neither so what IS your point? When the cars weight is reduced by about 500 lbs, a GOOD tune is done, 15 PSI is applied and its on slicks and skinnies, you might be looking at the fastest LS1 in the country.
Oh, and if you knew anything about boost applications you would know that is VERY impressive on just 93 octane. Imagine if on top of EVERYTHING I just told you, they sprayed a little shot at it also.....I bet it would land on your car as well as ARE's new setups....</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It wont get away with 15 psi on 93 octane. You ridicule someone else for posting about your IFs and then you bring up many more <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> That car is not impressive as it is right now, Tony Whatleys daily driven all motor no weight reduction stock-intaked non-forced induction car runs better times at the same trap...
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Re: YOU GOT TO SEE THIS! MINTY
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Oh, and if you knew anything about boost applications you would know that is VERY impressive on just 93 octane. Imagine if on top of EVERYTHING I just told you, they sprayed a little shot at it also.....I bet it would land on your car as well as ARE's new setups....
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I do not understand this part? What does it mean please??
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Oh, and if you knew anything about boost applications you would know that is VERY impressive on just 93 octane. Imagine if on top of EVERYTHING I just told you, they sprayed a little shot at it also.....I bet it would land on your car as well as ARE's new setups....
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I do not understand this part? What does it mean please??
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Re: YOU GOT TO SEE THIS! for the guy that said this. "It wont get away with 15 psi on 93 octane", yes it will, that's 15psi on 8.5:1 compression ratio, in fact I think you could run 18psi on 93 octane with tune. Then I recommend trying out 2x psi on 104 octane. Too bad it isn't a turbo car or this would be as easy as turning a **** and adding the fuel.
This is impressive by its potential. Going from 7 to 15 psi will result in more then 200 extra hp. Keep up the good work and don't listen to the haters.
This is impressive by its potential. Going from 7 to 15 psi will result in more then 200 extra hp. Keep up the good work and don't listen to the haters.
Re: YOU GOT TO SEE THIS! Ok maybe I don't know jack about this stuff, I'm just a chick, but the way I look at it every car is different. The one thing I have learned in running my car is you can't expect the best all the time. This is the first time this car was ran at the track. I believe the car only got two runs in that night, not enough to learn the car and what it likes in my opinion. When you guys are comparing this car to other people's cars are you really looking at the whole picture? Someone said something about WHAT IFs, well everything is full of WHAT IFs right. There are lots of things to be considered. That is all I am going to say for now.
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Re: YOU GOT TO SEE THIS! ONEBADWS6
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> 1.6 on a 10.7@128.66 is traction, with that mph if it hooked your looking at 10.20's. The sheetmetal intake has not been proven to help any, they are considering going back to a LS6 intake. Also that many cubes yes but with 8.5-1 compression, notice I said 7-8psi on a 15psi sett up. THe Speed crew is trying new things to make the most power for forced applications. As for the tune, can you drive your car to the track 70 miles in rush hour trafic and run 10.7's just by letting air out of your Nitto's? Instead of bashing these guys why don't you complement them on trying new things, like making a custom fuel system, intake, ect.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I am pretty sure you are right about the above. That car would surely go into the low 9's with slicks and upping the boost. I know our car would do the same if we put 300 nitrous spray to it. That is just what it takes to go fast. They are right on at this point. Pretty good for driving it to the track....for sure..
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> 1.6 on a 10.7@128.66 is traction, with that mph if it hooked your looking at 10.20's. The sheetmetal intake has not been proven to help any, they are considering going back to a LS6 intake. Also that many cubes yes but with 8.5-1 compression, notice I said 7-8psi on a 15psi sett up. THe Speed crew is trying new things to make the most power for forced applications. As for the tune, can you drive your car to the track 70 miles in rush hour trafic and run 10.7's just by letting air out of your Nitto's? Instead of bashing these guys why don't you complement them on trying new things, like making a custom fuel system, intake, ect.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I am pretty sure you are right about the above. That car would surely go into the low 9's with slicks and upping the boost. I know our car would do the same if we put 300 nitrous spray to it. That is just what it takes to go fast. They are right on at this point. Pretty good for driving it to the track....for sure..