Oil in Procharger intake
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Oil in Procharger intake
Today I removed the tubeing to my procarger intake and MAF and found A considerable amout of oil in the intake and tubing.
Any one know what may of caused this? And how do I fix it? <img border="0" alt="[Banging Head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" />
Any one know what may of caused this? And how do I fix it? <img border="0" alt="[Banging Head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" />
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Re: Oil in Procharger intake
Hope your blower is still under warranty, because your blower seal is probably bad, check the level on the blower, and check the color of the oil, if it's greenish brown, call ATI or whoever sold u the kit, to get an RGA number to send it back to get resealed
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Re: Oil in Procharger intake
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by MelloYellow:
<strong>You need a PCV Check Valve.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The oil is brown not that greenish color
Where do I get a PCV Valve and how do I do the install?
<strong>You need a PCV Check Valve.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The oil is brown not that greenish color
Where do I get a PCV Valve and how do I do the install?
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Re: Oil in Procharger intake
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by scott ws6:
<strong>sounds like blow bye.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">???? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
<strong>sounds like blow bye.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">???? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
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Re: Oil in Procharger intake
depending on how you set your kit up, if you did it like they say and reroute the pcv air back into the air intake, then you are getting"oil blow by" meaning the crankcase is pressurized, pushing oil mist through the pcv hose into the air intake, necessitating a check valve, or filter of some sort to keep oil out of intake air.
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My Vortech is doing the same thing, but it is not alot of oil. I remember someone else saying that a BOV helped solve this for them but cant remember who it was. It was a 30th TA with the Vortech. Probably need it though.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by MelloYellow:
<strong>Do a search on 'Check Valve'.
It gets installed in between the Intake and the PCV valve. Most people use the McMaster Carr piece.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Already done yesterday <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> thanks I hope it works
<strong>Do a search on 'Check Valve'.
It gets installed in between the Intake and the PCV valve. Most people use the McMaster Carr piece.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Already done yesterday <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> thanks I hope it works
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I'm Haveing the same problem. Where can I get one of these check valves from?? and what is a McMaster Carr piece.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by ldickson:
<strong>I'm Haveing the same problem. Where can I get one of these check valves from?? and what is a McMaster Carr piece.
<img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Go to web sight order part #7775K52
Then go to local hardware store and get
(1) 1/4" npt - 1/4" npt
and (1) 1/4 npt - 3/8" Barb
Installed mine today hope it works <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
<strong>I'm Haveing the same problem. Where can I get one of these check valves from?? and what is a McMaster Carr piece.
<img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Go to web sight order part #7775K52
Then go to local hardware store and get
(1) 1/4" npt - 1/4" npt
and (1) 1/4 npt - 3/8" Barb
Installed mine today hope it works <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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Re: Oil in Procharger intake
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><strong>Go to web sight order part #7775K52
Then go to local hardware store and get
(1) 1/4" npt - 1/4" npt
and (1) 1/4 npt - 3/8" Barb
Installed mine today hope it works <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" /> Still oil <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" />
<small>[ October 17, 2002, 03:55 PM: Message edited by: White SS ]</small>
Then go to local hardware store and get
(1) 1/4" npt - 1/4" npt
and (1) 1/4 npt - 3/8" Barb
Installed mine today hope it works <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" /> Still oil <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" />
<small>[ October 17, 2002, 03:55 PM: Message edited by: White SS ]</small>
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Re: Oil in Procharger intake
I am having the same prob. and i already cleaned out the whole system. now it's doing it again a lil.
I put a fuel filter in the pcv hose, to kinda alow the pace of the oil, but it still kinda leaks still.
but i m going to go get the check valve.
Is there anything else i should get????
I put a fuel filter in the pcv hose, to kinda alow the pace of the oil, but it still kinda leaks still.
but i m going to go get the check valve.
Is there anything else i should get????
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Re: Oil in Procharger intake
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by sscamaro387:
<strong>I am having the same prob. and i already cleaned out the whole system. now it's doing it again a lil.
I put a fuel filter in the pcv hose, to kinda alow the pace of the oil, but it still kinda leaks still.
but i m going to go get the check valve.
Is there anything else i should get????</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I got everything in the quote above but for some reason im still getting oil?
Also I am getting low boost levels about 2.5 insted of the 5 psi that I was getting about 3 months ago.
<strong>I am having the same prob. and i already cleaned out the whole system. now it's doing it again a lil.
I put a fuel filter in the pcv hose, to kinda alow the pace of the oil, but it still kinda leaks still.
but i m going to go get the check valve.
Is there anything else i should get????</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I got everything in the quote above but for some reason im still getting oil?
Also I am getting low boost levels about 2.5 insted of the 5 psi that I was getting about 3 months ago.
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Re: Oil in Procharger intake
got the oil filler cap, already(thunder racing) I also got the checkvalve this morning.we'll see if it works.
Plus I met a guy on WWW.LS1.COM and he had a solution too.
So if u would like to know, if u would like the PIC's of it, write ur e-mail done and i will e-mail u with it.
Mike
JEFF BLUVAS 5/1/02
COALESCING ELEMENT TO FIX ATI’S
HIGH BOOST OIL CONSUMPTION
INTRO: THE LS1 ENGINE UTILIZES THE VACCUUM PRODUCED BY THE INTAKEMANIFOLD TO RELIEVE/EQUALIZE PRESSURE WITHIN THE ENGINE. THE
ROUTING OF THIS LINE CAN BE FOUND ON THE PASSENGER SIDE VALVE COVER VENTING INTO THE THROTTLE BODY.
THE ADDITION OF A SUPERCHARGER TO THE ENGINE WILL CREATE A POSITIVE PRESSURE WITHIN THE INTAKE MANIFOLD. THIS POSITIVE PRESSURE WILL CAUSE THE INTERNALS OF THE ENGINE TO BECOME PRESSURIZED. THIS COULD CAUSE THE OIL RESERVIORS TO NOT
ADEQUATLY PROVIDE THE MOVING PARTS WITH OIL IF THE PRESSURE OF THE INTAKE MANIFOLD EXCEEDS THAT OF THE OIL PUMPS PRESSURE HEAD. THE VALVE COVER VENT MUST BE REROUTED TO THE INLET OF THE BLOWER
SUCH THAT A VACCUUM IS PROVIDED TO RELIEVE/EQUALIZE PRESSURE WITHIN THE ENGINE AT ALL OPERATING CONDITIONS.
PROBLEM: THE SUPERCHARGER MOVES A LOT OF AIR THUS CREATING CLOSE TO AN IDEAL VACCUUM WITHIN THE INLET OF THE BLOWER (29.9 IN OF Hg OR 0
PSIA). THE VACCUUM AND PRESSURIZED ENGINE INTERNALS FROM THE BLOWER CAUSES EXTREME AMOUNT OF OIL VAPOR TO VENT FROM THE VALVE COVER INTO THE INLET OF THE BLOWER CAUSING THE AIR DUCTS
AND INTERCOOLERS TO BECOME COATED WITH ENGINE OIL. THIS WILL DECREASE THE EFFICIECY OF THE INTERCOOLERS, POSSIBLY COAT THE MASS AIRFLOW SENSOR AND CAUSE FALSE READINGS (SENSE LESS AIR =
LESS FUEL DELIVERED = LEAN), AND ULTIMATLY CONSUME OIL. SOME MAY MISTAKE THE OIL THAT COLLECTS ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE BLOWER AS AN INTERNAL LEAK WITHIN THE SELF-CONTAINED OIL SYSTEM PER ATI’S DESIGN, WHICH IS NOT THE CASE.
SOLUTION: AN ELEMENT IS TO BE ADDED TO THE SYSTEM TO COLLECT THE OIL THAT PASSES THROUGH THE RELIEF/EQUALIZATION LINE BEFORE IT ENTERS THE
BLOWER. THE UNIT SHALL INCORPORATE A COALESCING ELEMENT THAT WILL ALLOW THE OIL VAPOR TO DROP FROM SUSPENSION IN THE AIR STREAM AND ACCUMULATE WITHIN A DRAINABLE CONTAINER.
SCHEMATIC:* * SEE ATTACHED * *
Plus I met a guy on WWW.LS1.COM and he had a solution too.
So if u would like to know, if u would like the PIC's of it, write ur e-mail done and i will e-mail u with it.
Mike
JEFF BLUVAS 5/1/02
COALESCING ELEMENT TO FIX ATI’S
HIGH BOOST OIL CONSUMPTION
INTRO: THE LS1 ENGINE UTILIZES THE VACCUUM PRODUCED BY THE INTAKEMANIFOLD TO RELIEVE/EQUALIZE PRESSURE WITHIN THE ENGINE. THE
ROUTING OF THIS LINE CAN BE FOUND ON THE PASSENGER SIDE VALVE COVER VENTING INTO THE THROTTLE BODY.
THE ADDITION OF A SUPERCHARGER TO THE ENGINE WILL CREATE A POSITIVE PRESSURE WITHIN THE INTAKE MANIFOLD. THIS POSITIVE PRESSURE WILL CAUSE THE INTERNALS OF THE ENGINE TO BECOME PRESSURIZED. THIS COULD CAUSE THE OIL RESERVIORS TO NOT
ADEQUATLY PROVIDE THE MOVING PARTS WITH OIL IF THE PRESSURE OF THE INTAKE MANIFOLD EXCEEDS THAT OF THE OIL PUMPS PRESSURE HEAD. THE VALVE COVER VENT MUST BE REROUTED TO THE INLET OF THE BLOWER
SUCH THAT A VACCUUM IS PROVIDED TO RELIEVE/EQUALIZE PRESSURE WITHIN THE ENGINE AT ALL OPERATING CONDITIONS.
PROBLEM: THE SUPERCHARGER MOVES A LOT OF AIR THUS CREATING CLOSE TO AN IDEAL VACCUUM WITHIN THE INLET OF THE BLOWER (29.9 IN OF Hg OR 0
PSIA). THE VACCUUM AND PRESSURIZED ENGINE INTERNALS FROM THE BLOWER CAUSES EXTREME AMOUNT OF OIL VAPOR TO VENT FROM THE VALVE COVER INTO THE INLET OF THE BLOWER CAUSING THE AIR DUCTS
AND INTERCOOLERS TO BECOME COATED WITH ENGINE OIL. THIS WILL DECREASE THE EFFICIECY OF THE INTERCOOLERS, POSSIBLY COAT THE MASS AIRFLOW SENSOR AND CAUSE FALSE READINGS (SENSE LESS AIR =
LESS FUEL DELIVERED = LEAN), AND ULTIMATLY CONSUME OIL. SOME MAY MISTAKE THE OIL THAT COLLECTS ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE BLOWER AS AN INTERNAL LEAK WITHIN THE SELF-CONTAINED OIL SYSTEM PER ATI’S DESIGN, WHICH IS NOT THE CASE.
SOLUTION: AN ELEMENT IS TO BE ADDED TO THE SYSTEM TO COLLECT THE OIL THAT PASSES THROUGH THE RELIEF/EQUALIZATION LINE BEFORE IT ENTERS THE
BLOWER. THE UNIT SHALL INCORPORATE A COALESCING ELEMENT THAT WILL ALLOW THE OIL VAPOR TO DROP FROM SUSPENSION IN THE AIR STREAM AND ACCUMULATE WITHIN A DRAINABLE CONTAINER.
SCHEMATIC:* * SEE ATTACHED * *
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Re: Oil in Procharger intake
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by smokinHawk:
<strong>put a filter cap on the oil cap that should help alot.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">By any chance do you have the part number?
<strong>put a filter cap on the oil cap that should help alot.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">By any chance do you have the part number?
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no i dont .
just go to your local auto parts store like autozone and look at the filler vent caps, get the push in type, you should be able to figure ot which one will work, cost like 10-15 bucks.
just go to your local auto parts store like autozone and look at the filler vent caps, get the push in type, you should be able to figure ot which one will work, cost like 10-15 bucks.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by smokinHawk:
<strong>no i dont .
just go to your local auto parts store like autozone and look at the filler vent caps, get the push in type, you should be able to figure ot which one will work, cost like 10-15 bucks.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Went to autozone got one installed it the I was raceing with my brother in his hawk and blew it right out under boost <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" />
<strong>no i dont .
just go to your local auto parts store like autozone and look at the filler vent caps, get the push in type, you should be able to figure ot which one will work, cost like 10-15 bucks.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Went to autozone got one installed it the I was raceing with my brother in his hawk and blew it right out under boost <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" />