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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 11:58 AM
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i'm building a 02 camaro right now utiziling an iron block 6.0 motor, and building the motor for boost.

my question is, who makes the best turbo kit out there? i would rather not have to hack the car up, and would also like to use a water-air intercooler in lieu of the air-air. my budget is 4k for this kit. as for turbo sizing, lets say the motor will be between 370-408 CI. please make suggestions!
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 12:10 PM
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PTK or Hi-Flo with an 76 for 370 and 88 for 408. Hi-Flo uses an A2A but puts it flat facing the ground so you don't cut up the nose/bumper area. PTK has an A2W option. Personally, I'd go PTK, just from reputation and recent results. And you may want to doiuble that budget. You'll need every bit of 6k for a kit plus the littlet things. What is your total budget for the whole car?
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$4,000 budget for an A2W large cube motor turbo setup? GL with that.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by LSONE
$4,000 budget for an A2W large cube motor turbo setup? GL with that.
no, just the kit. 5k would probably be more realistic. BTW this is in a stick car with no nitrous. usable streetable power is what i need.

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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 12:23 PM
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PTK or Hi-Flo with an 76 for 370 and 88 for 408. Hi-Flo uses an A2A but puts it flat facing the ground so you don't cut up the nose/bumper area. PTK has an A2W option. Personally, I'd go PTK, just from reputation and recent results. And you may want to doiuble that budget. You'll need every bit of 6k for a kit plus the littlet things. What is your total budget for the whole car?
the rest of the car is done, the block is at the machine shop, and i'll be building it this coming month. total budget for the whole car is 12k.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 12:26 PM
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are you looking t keep AC and all that mumbo jumbo? Even at $5,000 i think it would be hard to find a good A2W kit that will support the power you're looking to make. But, like RyanJ said, PTK is a good start, maybe TTi race kit, you're gonna have to call around I would think.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by LSONE
are you looking t keep AC and all that mumbo jumbo? Even at $5,000 i think it would be hard to find a good A2W kit that will support the power you're looking to make. But, like RyanJ said, PTK is a good start, maybe TTi race kit, you're gonna have to call around I would think.
i have to say i don't see it necessary to keep AC, but it would definitely be nice!
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 12:37 PM
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I still think you are looking at 6k+ for a nice kit with or w/o A/C, no matter what intercooler. Have you already set up your fuel system and whatnot?
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 12:43 PM
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Well if you are lookin for street power then A2A is theonly way. Unless u make a habit of keeping ice water inteh car to fill it up with every couple minutes. A2W is great for the track but street cars shouldnt have them. The PTK kit is also quite a bit pricey compared to the Hi Flo kit. And even then you are gonna use every bit of 5k to get that. GL man


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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 99SS-T
Well if you are lookin for street power then A2A is theonly way. Unless u make a habit of keeping ice water inteh car to fill it up with every couple minutes. A2W is great for the track but street cars shouldnt have them. The PTK kit is also quite a bit pricey compared to the Hi Flo kit. And even then you are gonna use every bit of 5k to get that. GL man


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Wrong. A2W coolers are pleny streetable, and you don't need ice. Ask MightyMouse...hell...ask FORD. What do you think all those Cobra's and Lightnings run? With a heat exchanger, water will still have better heat dispersement properites than ambient air.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 12:58 PM
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the car is finished, all money matters aside (not trying to be a jerk) all i'm looking for is who to buy the kit from, how much HP i can expect and whether or not others have experience with such a product.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 01:06 PM
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AFAIK ptk and tti are the only two companies that make "off the shelf" A2W turbo kits for out cars. The amount of power you make with either kit will largely depend on the turbo you go with. A pte-88 will support over 1000hp. PTK retains the AC, tti removes it.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by RyanJ
I still think you are looking at 6k+ for a nice kit with or w/o A/C, no matter what intercooler. Have you already set up your fuel system and whatnot?

Like Ryan said. $6000 is more realistic for a kit to make that kind of power....
Now i hope you already have a fuel system done.... if not your looking at another $1k there....

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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 01:23 PM
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Well, money aside, I say PTK or Hi-Flo if you want to keep A/C, TTi Race if you don't care. I say A2A simply because you really won't be "hacking" up the car, just a few holes behind a billet grille which can be done very tastefully. A2W is just a bit more expensive and complicated with the exchanger and pump and lines.

PTK IMO is the best kit out there. The reputation, results, materials, etc. All second to none. Hi-Flo's kit looks good, and Marko has been around forever driving and testing turbo kits so he obviously knows what works. The TTi race kit is proven as well, but you lose A/C. So, its up to you.

Oh yeah, horsepower... with a 370 and a 76GTS the TTi kit (with an A2A) has made 700rw+ at SpeedInc. The PTK kit can support that as well. Nothing out there for the Hi-Flo yet, but I don't see why it couldnt do that as well.

Horsepower IMO is more dependent on the fuel system and tuning than it is on some tubing and welding. Get the turbo that matches your consumption and boost requirements given what motor you are using, then get the biggest baddest fuel system you can live with, then buy Big Stuff 3 or EFILive/HPT with 2-3bar MAP Speed Density capibility.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by RyanJ

Horsepower IMO is more dependent on the fuel system and tuning than it is on some tubing and welding. Get the turbo that matches your consumption and boost requirements given what motor you are using, then get the biggest baddest fuel system you can live with, then buy Big Stuff 3 or EFILive/HPT with 2-3bar MAP Speed Density capibility.

Ryan's right.... in the end ill probably have about $2750 in my fuel system.
To do it right the first time costs$$$
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 02:07 PM
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I can get hold of a guy selling a new, fully upgraded ptk kit.

Includes all the usual stuff, 76GTS turbo plus tial 50mm BOV, A/W intercooler, T-bolts (which are upgrades), which would be badass on a 370ci street car. But I think hes looking to get around $6700 (retailed around 7k) for it and that's a little over you budget. GL!!
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