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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 10:21 PM
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Man some of you guys are rough LOL. 135mph isnt too bad for builder driving that hasnt been paid yet. I'm sure Allan would be happy to put some bogarts/ET drags and a 2 step on the thing and power shift it the whole way once its all paid for to keep you guys happy
kp 135mph is bad for 900+rwhp no matter how you put it, I had no et drags on my car, no 2 step, stock suspension and taking it easy out of the whole, couldnt powershift with a stock 10 bolt on 3.23 gears either. shifting real easy. I mean i went 101mph in the 1/8th with 14#s and 485rwhp that was with half throttle in 1st gear 2.0160ft, 11.44@125mph, i would hope i can go a lot faster then just 10mph more with almost 500rwhp

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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 10:24 PM
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little red you seemed to be overly concerned about this turbo buildup. when you get behind a 900 rwhp 6 speed, you let me know how easy it is.

480 rwhp is a WORLD of difference from pedaling a 900 rwhp stick car. sorry bro, not the same game.

its easy to hook your kind of power, even on drag radials. you spent much more time accelerating than the futral turbo car. thus your traps seem better than his (even though it isnt). once the turbo car is setup to accelerate throughout the entire run, its going to be a monster.

btw what did you run your first time out at the track with teh stick and 480 rwhp? i promiss you could go wot after first gear. with 900 rwhp you cant on a small tire.
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 10:32 PM
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little red you seemed to be overly concerned about this turbo buildup. when you get behind a 900 rwhp 6 speed, you let me know how easy it is.

480 rwhp is a WORLD of difference from pedaling a 900 rwhp stick car. sorry bro, not the same game.

its easy to hook your kind of power, even on drag radials. you spent much more time accelerating than the futral turbo car. thus your traps seem better than his. once the turbo car is setup to accelerate throughout the entire run, its going to be a monster.

btw what did you run your first time out at the track with teh stick and 480 rwhp? i promiss you could go wot after first gear. with 900 rwhp you cant on a small tire.
my first outing was 480hp 11.44@125mph on a 2.060ft i was scared to brake a stock auto 10 bolt with more then 100k miles and stock suspension.
My second time at the track was a week later when i figured out that my intake tube was colapsing, went back to the dyno that neted me 630rwhp, went right back out there and went 7.0@107 with a 1.89 60ft a little more brave that time.
3rd time out 6.9@109- 10.63@134mph and the twin disk was shot from slipping the clutch slipped all the way through 4th gear.
sorry i dont happend to agree that 135mph is good for that car even on that tire and being first time out
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 10:38 PM
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im not concered btw at all just another 6speed turbo car that dosent seem to go anywhere with the amount of power its making.
only turbo car i have seen that ran good and was 6 speed is Joses customer with a 355lt1 with a 1.760ft the car traped 122mph in the 1/8th and 156 1/4 that was 1023rwhp not even 100 more then this guys car.
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 10:58 PM
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i don't think too many people on this board understand how much difference there is in driving a 600 rwhp then driving a 950 rwhp monster. i wouldn't go out and hold that thing to the floor with ten passes. its not setup for that at this time. i am sure that if mr. futral was paid to turn this in to a full drag car and told to run the **** out of it untill he hit 8's. then the car would run 8's. untill then alan has a car that is capable of running 8's or low 9's
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 11:00 PM
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well im just trying to figure out what else would be needed to get it to hook like a 1.5 60 ft?
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 11:10 PM
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Tires, suspension, and practice!
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 11:11 PM
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Tires, suspension, and practice!

duh, but what kind of suspension?
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by LittleRedZ
kp 135mph is bad for 900+rwhp no matter how you put it, I had no et drags on my car, no 2 step, stock suspension and taking it easy out of the whole, couldnt powershift with a stock 10 bolt on 3.23 gears either. shifting real easy. I mean i went 101mph in the 1/8th with 14#s and 485rwhp that was with half throttle in 1st gear 2.0160ft, 11.44@125mph, i would hope i can go a lot faster then just 10mph more with almost 500rwhp
Unfortunately you dont seem to understand that the guy driving the car was owed a lot of money and it wasnt even his car. To me thats the main point of it, if someone owed you for doing the work and asked you to take it to the track would you beat it as hard as you could on a cold track and crappy tires - I wouldnt.

I'm fully aware how much power it takes to run what and anyone can figure out 135mph at 4000lbs isnt anywhere near 900rwhp. Matter of fact I come up with 670rwhp, 900rw would give close to 149 in a 4000lb car. I dont know the car owner or Allan at all, but I seen Allan drive and build quite a few fast cars and I have to give him the benefit of the doubt, time will tell. Either way its not my car and not my money and I wasnt at the track so I'm not all that concerned either - just not ready to call BS or make the owner feel bad..
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 11:18 PM
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 11:22 PM
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ok, shocks, springs, and what the **** else is that?

ive already got bmr tubular lcas, random tech adj. t/a, adj panhard bar, tubular k member, tubular sub frames...
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 2000 Tran Zam
ok, shocks, springs, and what the **** else is that?

ive already got bmr tubular lcas, random tech adj. t/a, adj panhard bar, tubular k member, tubular sub frames...
Get some nice adjustable shocks (with whatever springs they recommend) and looks like you got the rest covered...

Oh yeah and an automatic and maybe some diapers...that thing is going to scare you shitless.

How fast was it before you sent it to be turned into a monster?
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by LTLHOMER
Get some nice adjustable shocks (with whatever springs they recommend) and looks like you got the rest covered...

Oh yeah and an automatic and maybe some diapers...that thing is going to scare you shitless.

How fast was it before you sent it to be turned into a monster?
had heads/cam before, dynoed 425 rwhp 408 rwtq.

im just trying also to figure out since its spinning so bad, what other suspension stuff besides tires and shocks/springs do i need to be able to trap the 145-150 like it should? I know it will take time, but im just curious what else I need to spend money on.

there are other 6 speed turbo cars trapping 150+ so I should come with in 5mph.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 2000 Tran Zam
had heads/cam before, dynoed 425 rwhp 408 rwtq.

im just trying also to figure out since its spinning so bad, what other suspension stuff besides tires and shocks/springs do i need to be able to trap the 145-150 like it should? I know it will take time, but im just curious what else I need to spend money on.

there are other 6 speed turbo cars trapping 150+ so I should come with in 5mph.
Should be set after the tires/springs/shocks...throw -2 deg pinion angle at it and let her rip. You got a big antiroll bar on it yet? That would be nice.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 12:25 AM
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nothing really for handling except maybe the lca's and the sub frames, dont plan on drifting or outmanuvering cops... :p
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Originally Posted by LTLHOMER
Should be set after the tires/springs/shocks...throw -2 deg pinion angle at it and let her rip. You got a big antiroll bar on it yet? That would be nice.
So i figure for like another 2000-2500 I should be set?
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 01:18 AM
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Well, basically allan took the car to the track last week just to see what its capable of.

Long story short, this car is mainly only good for freeway rolls, as it has no traction what so ever.

heres the timeslip.

60' 2.047
330' 5.414
1/8 7.872
MPH 104.07
1000' 9.920
1/4 11.60
MPH 135.58

He ran the car on 16 in et streets at 30psi.

heres the video.

this was done on the 101 octane run, which was 947 rwhp. however he said that the tires were not hooking at all, he couldnt even get traction to help the mph out.

Click here to watch Track-run

He believes it would have been over 140 if I had any type of traction.

Let me know what you think.
That's way too much pressure for those tires , the 16-in MT ET Street radials definitely hook , I've pulled half a dozen high 1.3 60fts with my IRS C5 Corvette , with a best of 1.36 , best ET is 9.33 at 149.18 , I know those tires can hold some power , might want to give them another shot , try them around 15lbs .
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 05:28 AM
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the sway bar isnt for drifting (rear one which they ment), its to keep the car going straight down the track, otherwise your car will torque and streer to the right with out a good swaybar (could do air bags but they dont work as well).
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 06:49 AM
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Ya dude, its about hour and a half or so away, but thats with a normal car.

Figure I could prob get there in 45 min

Or if your up to it, head up here to phx and I can show you around, get a couple freeway runs going...


Sweet! I'll shoot you a PM when the time gets closer.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 07:47 AM
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i don't think too many people on this board understand how much difference there is in driving a 600 rwhp then driving a 950 rwhp monster. i wouldn't go out and hold that thing to the floor with ten passes. its not setup for that at this time. i am sure that if mr. futral was paid to turn this in to a full drag car and told to run the **** out of it untill he hit 8's. then the car would run 8's. untill then alan has a car that is capable of running 8's or low 9's
lol theres people in the low 9s with 600rwhp s and people in the high 9s with their 800+rwhp turbo set ups, i think that is just awsome
and what do you have to call a car that makes 200rwhp more then you a ?
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