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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 09:20 PM
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Ok, I have been reading almost all day on placing breathers on the valve covers to get rid of the oil issues of the LS1 but havent seen any F.I. guys doing this. So my question is.... Is it going to be beneficial to get rid of the PCV or not on my turbo set up? Im sick and tired of the current set up from STS sprinkling my exhaust and engine bay with oil
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 09:30 PM
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I had the same issue with mine. Since I am replacing the motor, I decided to run the oil return to the nipple on the pass. side valve cover, which used to be for the pcv. I put a breather on that valve cover, and another one on the drivers side. Now, I don't know if this is gonna work, but I figured it was worth a try. Hope that helps.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 09:31 PM
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I plan to just run a catch can. If it worked on the stenod cars its good enough for me
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 11:00 PM
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https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction/398599-pvc-pcv.html
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 08:25 AM
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With proper design you can keep the P.C.V. system which is what I did. The only reason I can think of to delete it would be because it's easier. The benefits to having a P.C.V. system are less oil contamination because the blow-by gases are evacuated + you will eliminate the nasty smell that you will get if you just let that **** vent to the engine bay. Also there is power to be gained if you can provide vacuum to the crankcase under boost.
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What about like our old drag cars, using a crankcase evacuation system tied into the headers, manifolds? The higher the rpm, the more "vacuum" you get pulling the gases out as you create more boost. Much cheaper than a vacuum pump too! I've been seriously considernig this alternative on my setup, I'm running a valve cover breather, and have done NOTHING with my PCV, what do you all think?
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Old Dec 30, 2005 | 02:15 AM
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What about like our old drag cars, using a crankcase evacuation system tied into the headers, manifolds? The higher the rpm, the more "vacuum" you get pulling the gases out as you create more boost. Much cheaper than a vacuum pump too! I've been seriously considernig this alternative on my setup, I'm running a valve cover breather, and have done NOTHING with my PCV, what do you all think?
Humm not sure that would be a good idea if you are running cats.
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True, didn't think of that... I'm not running any.

Guess you could insert at a 45º after the cats. You'd only need to have one hooked up for it to operate properly, assuming it's close to stock displacement.
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It's hard to do a PCV system on a STS because the Turbo is in the back which you need the inlet to evac. boost pressure from the crankcase. We ussually just do a catch can with lines coming from both valve cover's.Stop's the oil from blowing out the dipstick.
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So I put breathers on my valve covers and deleted the PCV. Then I ran the STS return ine into the old PCV inlet on the passengers side valve cover. Now I got tons of smoke crap that smells like oil and fuel mix coming from the breathers. Not bad when Im driving but when I stop it looks like my engine is on fire with the smke coming out of it. If that wasnt enough I know have oil spraying out the breathers while in boost WTF??? Please help
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copy what I did.....
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Originally Posted by Lrry93
So I put breathers on my valve covers and deleted the PCV. Then I ran the STS return ine into the old PCV inlet on the passengers side valve cover. Now I got tons of smoke crap that smells like oil and fuel mix coming from the breathers. Not bad when Im driving but when I stop it looks like my engine is on fire with the smke coming out of it. If that wasnt enough I know have oil spraying out the breathers while in boost WTF??? Please help
If you have 2 breathers and oil is still coming out then the rings aren't sealing good enough --unless your running more than 14lbs of boost. Time to do a leakdown test
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Originally Posted by 2001WS6Vert
Also there is power to be gained if you can provide vacuum to the crankcase under boost.
Under boost, there is no vacuum. The vacuum would only be at part throttle (very little load). Correct me if I am wrong. I dont see why having it is important for "power gains".
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by RealQuick
Under boost, there is no vacuum. The vacuum would only be at part throttle (very little load). Correct me if I am wrong. I dont see why having it is important for "power gains".
If you have a line to the air filter setup then there will be vacuum under boost
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
If you have a line to the air filter setup then there will be vacuum under boost
Thats true, I didnt think of that. That would be the only spot for a turbocharged application.
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by RealQuick
Thats true, I didnt think of that. That would be the only spot for a turbocharged application.
and thats how i plan on running my setup
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