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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 06:58 PM
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I was wondering what is a safe amount of boost to run with my set up?ls1 block,eagle 4" crank, scat rods, weisco pistons, stage2 ls6 heads 2.05/1.60 vavles, cam is 224/228 on a 114, compression is 10.75 to 1. I'm in Ca so best gas we get is 91 octane. I'm looking at the sts kit now that it has a carb#, getting gt67 front mount i/c and bigger injectors.No sts bashing I heard it enough in other threads.
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 07:35 PM
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Werent you the guy who had problems with his motor?Did you get it sorted out through Eric?
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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I still have not pulled the motor.Just bought a new home and am getting around to it.I beleive one of the rings may be in backwards because of the excess amount of oil it was consuming.I will be sending my whole long block to Erik asap, I just need to get some time to pull it out.I will be doing a m6 conversion and I'm looking into turbo rather than the bottle.
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 10:34 PM
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Ah gotcha...your compression is rather high,so i could only see maybe 5#s with an intercooler,maybe a bit more with meth.
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 01:59 AM
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Ttt Any Other Thoughts??????????
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 07:30 AM
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You might be able to see 8+ psi out of it. It all depends on when you see spark knock with your available 91 octane fuel, along with your combination. With a turbo it is pretty easy to adjust and experiment with the boost while tuning. Bob
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You might be able to see 8+ psi out of it. It all depends on when you see spark knock with your available 91 octane fuel, along with your combination. With a turbo it is pretty easy to adjust and experiment with the boost while tuning. Bob
What type of rwhp would I be looking at with my setup and 7-8# of boost?I'm assuming an intercooler is a must.
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 12:49 PM
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It depends on what head gasket and what head hardware.

For the most boost.
I would run the BIG ARP head studs.. The ones where you need to drill and tap to use them and a SCE ICS titan head gasket.
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by V8_DSM_V8again
It depends on what head gasket and what head hardware.

For the most boost.
I would run the BIG ARP head studs.. The ones where you need to drill and tap to use them and a SCE ICS titan head gasket.
At what boost level is this needed?Who sells these products?
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 98cobrakillata
At what boost level is this needed?Who sells these products?
Wheel to wheel has the studs

http://www.w2wpowertrain.com/c-35-fasteners.aspx

Summit stocks the gasket in .032 and .042 thickness.

They are also made in .050 and .062. I'd run atleast the .042 to drop your CR...

http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...5&autoview=sku

Info from the gasket MFG
http://www.scegaskets.com/products/ics.html
http://www.scegaskets.com/news/ics-t...horsepower.htm
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Thats something that HPE would prolli have to do since im pretty sure hes sending the motor to them and wont be tearing it down just to do head bolts then have it teared down again for the ring.I could be missing something but i dont see how having bigger head studs would help him be able to run more boost since its not doing anything to raise the threshold limit b4 detonation.They designed for applications running extreme boost,not 8 psi.Definitely an intercooler is a must,you could get away with a few more psi with a meth kit also.
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Just run the stock sized ARPs... Since the cost is the same I'd just use the bigger ones on any motor..
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With alky injection would I be safe with higher boost than 8# or would 8# be pushing it also with the gaskets you mentioned how could I figure out my compression ratio.
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There are calculators online that you just fill in the info,ie head gasket thickness combustion chamber volume bore stroke etc and itll tell you.With an alky or like i said a meth kit you could prolli bump that a few psi higher if the tune is right.
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
There are calculators online that you just fill in the info,ie head gasket thickness combustion chamber volume bore stroke etc and itll tell you.With an alky or like i said a meth kit you could prolli bump that a few psi higher if the tune is right.
Would I be good with the gt67 maybe something different?I was thinking 60lb injectors does that sound right?
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That turbos gonna be small.Youre moving a large amount of air.HPE is doing my custom 383 as well.Id recommend getting "Maximum Boost" by Corky Bell to help you understand some of the things with FI.NA our motors are moving about 615cfms.Now im planning on 12-15#s on high boost and thatll be well over 1000cfms boosted.If you map out those kind of numbers on a compressor map you can see where u are in the turbos efficiency.On my T76GTS im almost off the chart so a T67 is way too small.But the 60# injectors are just fine.Mototrons.New Era Performance,LPE, or Ebay all sell them
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I agree, buy Maximum Boost. Best $20 I have spent on my engine yet!!

Hey what happened to the Venum injectors you had a line on??? Any reason you're recommending the Mototrons now?

Originally Posted by ddnspider
That turbos gonna be small.Youre moving a large amount of air.HPE is doing my custom 383 as well.Id recommend getting "Maximum Boost" by Corky Bell to help you understand some of the things with FI.NA our motors are moving about 615cfms.Now im planning on 12-15#s on high boost and thatll be well over 1000cfms boosted.If you map out those kind of numbers on a compressor map you can see where u are in the turbos efficiency.On my T76GTS im almost off the chart so a T67 is way too small.But the 60# injectors are just fine.Mototrons.New Era Performance,LPE, or Ebay all sell them
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 01:29 PM
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sent pm,i ened up with Mototrons as well,lol.
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since your going with a turbo setup now why don't you swap out the ls6 heads with some 6.0's.
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Originally Posted by Moparnos (The SLP Guy)
since your going with a turbo setup now why don't you swap out the ls6 heads with some 6.0's.
I was thinking about that.I want a similar head to waht i currently have 2.055/1.60 valves ect. so it is possible.

What do you fellas think of my cam for boost Synergy has some good turbo grinds I just dont know if they will smog out here in CA.
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