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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 01:38 PM
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Question how much for a complete ProCharger F1R setup???

hey all.........

i know it's a vague question, but i was just wondering for laughs and giggles. i am asking about the cost of a ProCharger F1R setup with everything right down to their big (or a big Spearco) A/A intercooler setup, assuming everything is bought new. does ATI even offer an F1R package?

here's a couple more quick questions...

How typical is it to throw a belt?

Would i use a cog or serpentine setup for 1000+hp, street type car?

What other advise can you offer?

Thanks for humoring me, but i'm also serious about getting the answers to these questions. i had been seriously considering a twin turbo setup, and may still do it one day, but i've always wanted a blower because i LOVE the sound on the street and i can still make awesome power with it. however, i've always been turned away by the idea of having to replace a $150 belt every time one breaks, but i've never known if that's a common problem or not if it's setup correctly. patiently waiting........


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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 01:40 PM
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You will have to pice it togeather or have some one build you a setup that will work... ATI doesnt make a kit like that for out cars........ buy your own blower, bracket, belt setup, and FMIC and piping and fab it up on your own.....
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 01:45 PM
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You will have to pice it togeather or have some one build you a setup that will work... ATI doesnt make a kit like that for out cars........ buy your own blower, bracket, belt setup, and FMIC and piping and fab it up on your own.....

they don't make a kit for a sbc? is that what you're saying? or that it may not fit within the confines of my engine bay.....read sig below.
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by PRAY HRD
they don't make a kit for a sbc? is that what you're saying? or that it may not fit within the confines of my engine bay.....read sig below.



Most dont read people sig's...... why??? cause this is LS1Tech......
so we thing what fits, can i do this, and we think in a F-Body with a LS1......

They do make a kit for a SBC but not for one in a Mustang...............

Anything like that your better off piecing your kit togeather and checking what fits and what doesnt and modifying it till its fits the way you like or want it to.

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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 02:06 PM
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oh, i see. no problem. i'm still curious as to a ball park figure though. here, do you think it would be more or less than $7000 to complete, basically?
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 02:07 PM
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Price it out, break it down by parts.
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 02:22 PM
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way more then 7000 dude...figure your motor isn't setup for a blower anyways so pistons n maybe rods have to change, or heads, i dunno bout that? if you gotta ask though you pry can't afford it. i'd get your current 427 setup up and running first and see how you like that for awhile. then if you still need more power get a nitrous kit. 1000hp street car from a blower is no fun to drive, instant tire spinnage or your breaking ****.

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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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way more then 7000 dude...figure your motor isn't setup for a blower anyways so pistons n maybe rods have to change, or heads, i dunno bout that? if you gotta ask though you pry can't afford it. i'd get your current 427 setup up and running first and see how you like that for awhile. then if you still need more power get a nitrous kit. 1000hp street car from a blower is no fun to drive, instant tire spinnage or your breaking ****.
i'm just curious about other ways of doing things. don't take this the wrong way, but i'm not really worried about much of what you had to say. the only reason i threw out 7g's is to get a base line. i figured if it would be more than that, i'd just do the twin turbo route, and make 1000+ on 93 oct. i also wouldn't have to do much to my motor. i've got a Dart Rocket block, Callies crank, Crower billet steel rods, Dart 18* heads, Shaft rockers, etc. etc. my fuel system and drivetrain are already capable of 1000hp+. so with a cam/spring swap and a lower comp. piston than my current 10.5:1 JE's and i'm just about there. i will just regret selling my Neal Chance bolt together if i go the twin route, (it was sestup for turbo). right now i'm probably just going to do a 2 stage plate system and then go from there. my new converter is setup for n2o and the Gen7 DFI can control up to a 3 stage system. hmmm.......decisions decisions. i'm just looking for the best of both worlds, any of the 3 will get me into the 8's when i'm ready for it! thanks for the input though.
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For your setup you can keep the 10.5-1 compression but may need a blower piston and definitely a big blower Cam.The F1R would need a custom bracket made which your car should be motor plated already--easy to mount the blower and run a solid support.Then run a Cog which would probly need custom Pulleys from ASP or so.There is plenty of room in the Stang. The A2W intercooler should be mounted in the rear pass seat for weight transfer.You will need 160lb injector's,-10 lines,and atleast a pump rated for 1600hp FI.This setup should put you at 1000-1200rwhp through an Auto.
Hard to say how much $$ it would cost.
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 09:30 PM
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Oop's, I was thinking race car

For a 93 octain car compression should be 9-1 and go with a
F1C /not F1R.The F1R put's out massive amount's of heat which is harder to cool on the street.You should be around 800-850rwhp with a pump gas setup. This setup in our 78 Malibu has run 9.5 with Street tires,93 octain,street tune.
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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
Oop's, I was thinking race car

For a 93 octain car compression should be 9-1 and go with a
F1C /not F1R.The F1R put's out massive amount's of heat which is harder to cool on the street.You should be around 800-850rwhp with a pump gas setup. This setup in our 78 Malibu has run 9.5 with Street tires,93 octain,street tune.
Details on the malibu please...copeters@hotmail.com


and why wouldnt this work...?

http://www.racingjunk.com/exec/ca/vi...BC--CHEAP.html

http://www.racingjunk.com/exec/ca/vi...Strip-Kit.html
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 02:16 AM
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F1C is massive I have only seen one f-body with one on it that was still street legal. Good luck.
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 05:23 AM
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Thats not a bad price but you'll need to run C16 in the tank.I'm pretty sure the Chevy kit will hang too far off the side of the motor to fit in a Stang though.
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 05:31 AM
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My buddy runs low 9's on a SBC and D1SC in an 87' Cutlass. How fast are you trying to go? An F1/F2 may be overkill.

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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 06:44 AM
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ultimately, 8's on c16. i should say that i'd want a mid 9 sec. on the street, but with the capability of running 8's at the track.
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 11:21 AM
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I could see a d1 sc carrying you into the mid 9s though even a d3. I love the f series blower's don't get me wrong but everyone I know around here if they are thumping an F1 or anything in an F frame they are on a big block with serious power. I have seen a D3 R on a SBC run deep into the 8's allready with minimal push behind it. The guy I know was hitting it with a 75 shot to cool it down the track but it ran stout.
Defintely will be looking out for you on the street this year.
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 10:50 PM
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The bracket will put it in the driver's side frame. You'll need to have a custom bracket built. ASSC is local to you and could probably work something up. They've done a few Procharger setups. lol
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If you end up trying to mock one up yourself drop me a PM if you are running a sbc I have a bracket that may or may not work for you. I use it on a diffrent application but you might have the hood clearance for it. It's a one off peice but they have worked okay for my application. I am trying to sell a p1sc now to move up to a d1sc
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