Is he crazy or am I wrong?
Is he crazy or am I wrong? Another NorCal guy just bought a Procharger F1R unit to put on his 468ci big block. Sounds good, right?
So I ask him his specs, and he is running 10.5:1 CR, and his solid roller cam is 254/254 @.050 614/614 lift, 110 LSA. He is going to run PUMP gas, a blower carb, no intercooler and some meth with a MSD6BTM to try to control the detonation.
I told him he's crazy. Am I out in left field or is he running towards a nightmare?
Jim
So I ask him his specs, and he is running 10.5:1 CR, and his solid roller cam is 254/254 @.050 614/614 lift, 110 LSA. He is going to run PUMP gas, a blower carb, no intercooler and some meth with a MSD6BTM to try to control the detonation.
I told him he's crazy. Am I out in left field or is he running towards a nightmare?
Jim
why the hell would be not run an A2A or an A2W?He could do it on pump depending on his goals,remember more cubes=more peak hp on pump gas.....and his compression is ok because look at his cam LSA,hes going to bleed off the cylinder pressure(or compression) with a 110 so thatll help as well.I still think hes a moron
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I concur...I think that his parts are all over the map as far as what he wants to do...Like he initially wanted to go N\A and then decided to go F\I...Now if he could drop his compression a bit then it would be a little more feasable...
He can run that setup no problem on the BB Chevy.Low boost on pump gas and higher boost on race gas.
Our race cars run a hell of alot more boost than that on higher compression motor's/no intercoolers.
Our race cars run a hell of alot more boost than that on higher compression motor's/no intercoolers.
Originally Posted by DeltaT
Another NorCal guy just bought a Procharger F1R unit to put on his 468ci big block. Sounds good, right?
So I ask him his specs, and he is running 10.5:1 CR, and his solid roller cam is 254/254 @.050 614/614 lift, 110 LSA. He is going to run PUMP gas, a blower carb, no intercooler and some meth with a MSD6BTM to try to control the detonation.
I told him he's crazy. Am I out in left field or is he running towards a nightmare?Jim
So I ask him his specs, and he is running 10.5:1 CR, and his solid roller cam is 254/254 @.050 614/614 lift, 110 LSA. He is going to run PUMP gas, a blower carb, no intercooler and some meth with a MSD6BTM to try to control the detonation.
I told him he's crazy. Am I out in left field or is he running towards a nightmare?Jim
The carburetor should take care of at least 50% - 60% of the intercooling.
You never know til you try it. Not trying it means never learning, so give him a chance.
Originally Posted by Keith
If it is a blow through setup, the fuel vaporizing in the carb's venturi's will act as a pretty darn good intercooler, plus the meth on top of that.
Meth will cool the air more than any A2A will. Ever watch an alcohol blown motor idle? My friend has one, the blower hat was about 40 degrees on a 90 degree day. It was sweating like a block of ice.
I had meth on my GN. I could drive the car for along time, heat soak the motor, then romp on it and watch my coolant temps drop! If I did it then parked with a minute, my intake was room temperature.
Meth is awesome.
I had meth on my GN. I could drive the car for along time, heat soak the motor, then romp on it and watch my coolant temps drop! If I did it then parked with a minute, my intake was room temperature.
Meth is awesome.
Last goal I saw was "Hella power", but no numbers.
The whole thread caught my eye because he changes questions about power adders like crazy (D1SC then N2O now F1R) and I don't know if he's full of crap and I haven't seen his car yet. Plus I didn't think the parts made a complimentary setup.
Why does gas through a carb cool the charge more than through an EFI setup?
Jim
The whole thread caught my eye because he changes questions about power adders like crazy (D1SC then N2O now F1R) and I don't know if he's full of crap and I haven't seen his car yet. Plus I didn't think the parts made a complimentary setup.
Why does gas through a carb cool the charge more than through an EFI setup?
Jim
Becuase... In a carb there is much more area that is wet flow, It gives it ample time to cool down. The fuel is in the air in the plenum, the whole runner all teh way in... Whereas EFI the fuel is barely in the runner in most applications and then its off the the combustion chamber which as a matter of enviroment is much hotter.
I was supprised as well, but many people have measured the differnce before and after carb and its pretty substantial.
www.turbomustangs.com and go to the blow-thru database.
I was supprised as well, but many people have measured the differnce before and after carb and its pretty substantial.
www.turbomustangs.com and go to the blow-thru database.
