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Old 04-03-2006, 01:43 AM
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does anyone have an idea the most u can get out of a stock cubic inch ls1 with a front mount turbo kit before u get detonation? because ive seen people with sts turbo kits who cant pass 550 at the wheels because of knock, can front mounts pass this since they have big intercoolers?
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yes. im sure well over 600whp with a good fmic. alot of it depends on the tune.

with meth inject, im sure you could see much more than that. MM was pushing over 900 with meth and pump.
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1000hp+... you're asking the wrong question.. has nothing to do with the CI of your engine..
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1000hp+... you're asking the wrong question.. has nothing to do with the CI of your engine..
who makes 1000hp 346 on pump gas?
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detonation on the dyno or on the street afterwards?
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I've seen a bit over 500 at the wheels done through a stalled auto and a 12 bolt...The tuner said it was pretty close to letting loose though. This was with an STS kit.
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STS is not your best bet for an all out max hp pump gas 346ci engine.
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What's the point of going for the most anything on pump gas? Race on race gas and cruise on pump gas...turn the boost down and still spank most anything on the street. Not worth the risk to try to put it on kill on pump gas unless you're rich...
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Currently I'm running 725rwhp on pump alone...even stock heads/cam/intake/TB etc. No meth...yet. I'm thinking some ETP heads, bigger cam, and meth will allow ~900rwhp on pump. Stock 6.0L block here 364ci. GMR twin turbo kit.
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I just put down 675 on 93 octain. Could have probly turned the boost up a little more but i was happy and decidedc to just leave it at the time.
i've since added 3psi with no problems in the FL heat... it's all in the tune...
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Originally Posted by MIGHTYMOUSE
detonation on the dyno or on the street afterwards?
this is the perfect question...im sure i can make 1000+ on the dyno...the street BOOM
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Originally Posted by 777
STS is not your best bet for an all out max hp pump gas 346ci engine.
gonna have to agree here...if its all out then its not the way to go...i managed 700 at the expense of some head gaskets on pump with an sts setup at 346ci...forged of course with heads/cam etc.

If you just want a fast as hell street car then its not bad but a max effort race car...i wouldnt.

Im over 800 right now very safely but it took cubes an big *** turbo
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Originally Posted by 93formto98T/A
Currently I'm running 725rwhp on pump alone...even stock heads/cam/intake/TB etc. No meth...yet. I'm thinking some ETP heads, bigger cam, and meth will allow ~900rwhp on pump. Stock 6.0L block here 364ci. GMR twin turbo kit.
whoa thats sick power on stock setup...6.0l or not Im assuming a good intercooler correct?
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A lot of it depends on the size of turbos and intercooler efficiency. If you're pushing some small turbos to hit that number you're gonna superheat the charge and it's gonna detonate. Larger turbos will aid higher pump gas numbers.....to a point.

A nice big, well vented, FMIC will work wonders too. I guess if you really want good numbers then use an A2W intercooler with some ice in it....but then again, you don't normally carry an ice chest in the back of your car.
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Big HP Nubers on Pump gas is a waste of time... the bragging rights dont really mean alot...... alot have done it and paid the price....... a new motor later they are firm believers of higher octane fuel with big Boost.

Its not worth it..... to me at least.....

Thats my .02

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yep, nowadays i just leave my junk at 13# on the street and let it ride
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Originally Posted by MIGHTYMOUSE
yep, nowadays i just leave my junk at 13# on the street and let it ride
yep 14 psi here
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I'm guessing 600-700rwhp with stock cubes, intercooled, with lowered compression. But that's with forged pistons too.
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yep, nowadays i just leave my junk at 13# on the street and let it ride
Still enough to beat 99.9% of the street cars around here....

And yep... lucky for me (not so lucky or cheap for him), I've had someone in the same zip code to break stuff by doing it the hard way...so I've learned from that. From now on, it's race gas in tank any time i go to the track...I am too poor to risk it.
If you could always guarantee you actually got 93 octane, not 89.35468, then that would be one thing, but you can't.
I am waiting for this E85 to show up here...then i am going to ditch the meth all together.
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For the record, I now make 625+ on 93 octane with 8 lbs boost... STS style.
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