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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 10:58 AM
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Well id like to keep my mti stage 2 heads and my comp cam 232/238 595/605 on a 112 is this possible
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what is your compression.... tha cam has a 112 lsa... typically you'd want a 114 or higher to keep the boost..
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to get 600rwhp your going to need about 9-9.5:1 compression
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 11:06 AM
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Yeah well i was thinking about this my friend just bought a 2006 2500 chevy Truck and he has 6.0 heads, and i was going to trade him my head for his heads and hed give me cash also. Would this work ??? i could get the heads ported and polished
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Originally Posted by blue2002ss06
Yeah well i was thinking about this my friend just bought a 2006 2500 chevy Truck and he has 6.0 heads, and i was going to trade him my head for his heads and hed give me cash also. Would this work ??? i could get the heads ported and polished

if your going to do pistons any ways id just get a deep dish piston and enjoy the mti heads with a good quench and good flow.
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ty_ty13
if your going to do pistons any ways id just get a deep dish piston and enjoy the mti heads with a good quench and good flow.

ty hit that on the head...you can get some pretty deep dished (not the pizza) pistons like -15 cc or better to lower your cr...keep your heads
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by blue2002ss06
Well i dont want to do the nitrous bit lol and thanks for the opinons about the forged block. That sounds like a badass plan Will my heads bolt right up to it as well?

Your heads will bolt up as will everything else, but id say sell your heads and get some stage III patriot ls6 heads or some stock 6.0 liter heads (more cost effective) so you can lower compression. Then go with an ls6 intake, blower cam and an ati ds1c or a turbo kit, plus at least 42# injectors and upgraded fuel pump. With either one you will be close to if not at 600 rwhp pushing 9-10 psi. Your gonna need a new tranny and rear end but it should survive on the stock tranny and rear for a little while if you take it easy.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 10:43 AM
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ty hit that on the head...you can get some pretty deep dished (not the pizza) pistons like -15 cc or better to lower your cr...keep your heads

Thats true too. Either way you will be able to lower the compression, and youd want aroun 8.5-9.0 comp.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 11:34 AM
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Well how much hp would I be giving up if I keep my heads that I have on the car now rather then buying the stage 3 heads??
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 11:58 AM
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my opinion is to keep heads and buy new deep dish pistons pistons, much better use of money. Cheapest way right now to get into FI, would be a Truck Manifold system with a MP70. Imho. The potential of this system is very good though ,GT47-88's have been fitted. It gets rid of the AC if your concerened about that though.
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Well how much hp would I be giving up if I keep my heads that I have on the car now rather then buying the stage 3 heads??
Not a whole lot. The heads you have now are nice heads and im sure flow well so you can def keep them and get a deeper dished piston if you want. I just figured you could get most of your money back on the heads you have now and pick up some patriot stage III ls6 heads with you kicking in a little more money or go with some ported/polished 6.0 liter heads. Either way you will need to lower the compression via different heads and dished pistons or keep the same heads and go with an even deeper dished piston. If you call/pm/email say TSP or one of the other sponsors that build engines then can get you the perfect setup either with your current heads or new heads.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 12:21 PM
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Here is a 347 from W2W:

https://ls1tech.com/forums/sponsor-sales-specials/471072-w2w-march-special.html

And here is the tsp 347 for $2799:

http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...mid=42&catid=3
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Or here:

http://www.sdpc2000.com/catalog/4274...k-Assembly.htm
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i think some people are forgetting how thin our pistons are to begin with....you want as much meat in the piston as possible in case of detonation your pistons dont fry the first time.The order for dropping compression is bigger chamber heads.......thicker gasket within reason....THEN deeper dish pistons.Has anyone ever seen what a piston that has like a 25cc dish looks like?Its rediculously thin.With the money you could get for your MTI heads and cam you could get yourself a nice set of ported 6.0ltr heads and a blower grind cam/turbo grind cam if you wanted to swap cams.And you'd still have cash left over.
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remember this too, that you can compinsate for restictive heads with more boost....with a better flowing intake system it takes less boost to make power, bosst is a mesure of restriction in your intake side.(basicly)
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by markp03
remember this too, that you can compinsate for restictive heads with more boost....with a better flowing intake system it takes less boost to make power, bosst is a mesure of restriction in your intake side.(basicly)
So are you pretty much telling me to go with a fast intake throttle body set up??
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no thats not what hes saying,at least i hope not.Sure itll drop the boost and up the flow,but might cost you some lowend and not make it worth it
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Originally Posted by blue2002ss06
So are you pretty much telling me to go with a fast intake throttle body set up??
Thats not what I am saying....I am just letting you know the relationship between higher flowing heads/intake system and how much boost you need to run to make X amount of power. personaly i think a fast setup on a boost application is kind of a waste of money.
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Well lol this seems to be a quite interesting topic, and I really apperciate the replys but i dont want to be a bother with this but should I sell the heads or just use them with the FI kit and internals?
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Originally Posted by blue2002ss06
Well lol this seems to be a quite interesting topic, and I really apperciate the replys but i dont want to be a bother with this but should I sell the heads or just use them with the FI kit and internals?

i had forgotten about your 3.905 bore and the length of your rod.... with a deep dish piston(more than -9cc) i believ it starts to get very thin and ddp is right about that... looks like you may need to sell your heads and grab some 6.0's from patriot performance and use the extra money for:

pistons
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rods
rod bolts

or buy a new shortblock (new 347/348) from a preffered sponsor (easiest suggestion )
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