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Poll: What is the best Meth kit and why?

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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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Gents... Someoen else asked the question. Just wanted to make it a poll.
Old Jun 29, 2006 | 07:27 PM
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I also would like to know, I used to have the STS meth kit but I hated the design.
Old Jun 30, 2006 | 11:35 AM
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I'm running an SMC kit.
Old Jun 30, 2006 | 11:38 AM
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The Alkycontrol kit doesn't use any of those cheap *** fittings and lines; they are very high quality fittings and braided lines. It's progressive. It has a pressure switch on top of the pump that ties back into a 2-color LED that shows not only when the pump is running but shows also that it is primed/flowing. It goes from red-running to green-running-primed the first time you tap the prime after the car has sat for a while. It's all green after that The F-body kit comes with a new washer tank already setup for it as well.

I can't really comment on the others.
Old Jun 30, 2006 | 12:26 PM
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AlkyControl vote here

See Frost's post, Julio is also a great guy to talk to and will answer any questions you have. Great customer service
Old Jun 30, 2006 | 02:33 PM
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What Frost said.
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Julio is the man
Old Jun 30, 2006 | 03:11 PM
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I can't honestly vouch for most of these companies, minus SMC. SMC's kit is sick. Plain and simple.

Regardless of the kit you use, make sure that if you plan on running straight methanol that the pump is made of a plastic composit, otherwise you'll have to keep on oiling the pump over and over since methanol is corrosive to metal.
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 09:27 PM
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Devils Own has the smallest variable controller that I've seen. Have been using it for 4-5 months now and have had zero problems with it. Easy install, setup and use. No leaks, works flawlessly and great customer service to. The price is also quite nice
Old Jun 30, 2006 | 09:29 PM
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 10:09 AM
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Hmmm how many of these come with their own tank instead of using the windshield tank?
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Originally Posted by longrange4u
Hmmm how many of these come with their own tank instead of using the windshield tank?
my SMC kit came with a seperate .5 gallon tank, fits really nice on the drivers side.
Old Jul 1, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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The Alkycontrol tank isn't an absolute, you can get a washer tank or the smaller tank. Each comes with a low-level warning light but if you run the washer tank you already get a low fluid warning light courtesy of GM.
Old Jul 1, 2006 | 10:03 PM
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I haven't gotten to use the Alkycontroll kit yet, but as far as customer service goes I am extremely happy. The stock windshield washer tank couldn't fit because there are two trans coolers mounted in the front, and I called up Julio and he next day aired me a different tank that can be mounted elsewhere.
Old Jul 2, 2006 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Frost
The Alkycontrol tank isn't an absolute, you can get a washer tank or the smaller tank. Each comes with a low-level warning light but if you run the washer tank you already get a low fluid warning light courtesy of GM.
Gotta love GM for this light.
Old Jul 2, 2006 | 09:16 AM
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my 98 either doesnt have this low washer light or it is broken on my car.
i run snow stuff and am happy with it. they all do the same thing, and personally all i look for is a big pump and a good nozzle design, not bells and whistles
Old Jul 2, 2006 | 10:11 AM
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I almost hate to post this, but I guess it's gotta' get out. . .

I installed a home-built turbo on my car about 18 months ago. After reading about some of the gains people were making with Methanol, I decided to try it on my own car. I bought the alkycontrol kit and found out why everyone likes their kit so much. I was very well thought out, had nothing but high quaility components, and even had instructions specific to my car. It worked great. I was able to run over 20 psi boost with no detonation at all.

About 9 months later, I broke a piston. Since I had just worked on the car and disconnected the Meth lines, and it broke the very first time I gassed it, I figured that I hadn't primed it. I put it back together, primed it, took it for a test drive, then promptly broke another piston. I fixed her once again. This time, I went over the Meth injection installation and found a bad connection in the wiring (my mistake, right?). I fixed that, then everything worked fine. . . until I went to the dyno. On the first dyno pull, it broke 4 pistons and melted 2. I fixed it once again and talked to Julio. He was very helpful and talked me through the pump inspection process. Apparently, the rubber parts in MY pump were not Methanol compatible. He sent me new pump elastomers free of charge (though I had spent over $2500 up to this point in just fixing broke stuff). Once again, everything was great and I was happy. . . to the tune of 143 mph in the quarter at full weight and 18 psi boost.

On this past Friday, I took my car to town. When I got back I smelled coolant. Popped the hood and found a coolant leak at the head gasket. I pulled the head to fix it and found. . . you guessed it . . . another broken piston! This is FOUR blown engines in the last year that I directly attribute to the Methanol injection in one way or another. I'm seriously considering going with more cubes, cam, and a better intake manifold, then backing the boost down to ~16 psi and ditching the Methanol injection.

Just in case anyone asks, I use SRP blower pistons. I had been running .024 - .026 ring gap, but opened it up to .028 - .030 on this past build.

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would it help for me to promise that methanol injection was not hurting the situation?

methanol can support more hp than 93 octane gas, the more you put in over the 93, the more hp you can support.

i wonder why you don't think it has anything to do with your chosen compression, actual a/f ratio, IAT's, exhaust backpressure, or just the sheer amount of horsepower you are attempting to develop on your current meth/93 mix

if you were hurting the same piston over and over you could blame an unseen distribution problem, but probably not 4.

it took about 25% of my fuel to be methanol to make an addititonal 300rwhp and I popped the engine assuming it would work just as well at the track as on the dyno.
Old Jul 2, 2006 | 10:34 AM
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Alky Control-Juilo's customer service is awesome-he answers his phone anytime and everytime!
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alkey control rules. the bigest reason is the customer support. i was able to gain about 200rwhp with the same 92 octane.


engineermike, anytime i have the truck riped apart i start with low boost and work my way back up over a few runs and watch the logs. it only takes a few runs to get back to where you were and if there is a problem you have time to catch it before it melts things down. on my set up i cant run 18psi. i run two 15nozles with the gain turned all the way up and 92 octane. my compresion is 8.7-1. 16psi is about as far as i can crank it at my current meth flow and set up.



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