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Old 07-21-2006, 09:36 AM
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We made on a customers car a little over 650rwhp (~18psi)on an LT1 a few years back. BUT, at 14psi we had 45psi of backpressure. Swapping from log to a header style system dropped backpressure from 45 to 29. Car picked up a shade over 100rwhp. So something to think about....., also EGT's dropped down ~250deg.

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Jose, was there any psi change on the inlet.?

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None, the spring/WG was regulated to 14psi.
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Originally Posted by bowtieman81
If we are discussing truck manifolds then they will support very large power. I was thinking of a log manifold where both banks feed into a single log.
I have a 4.8 truck manifold on the driver side which merges to a single log on the passenger side. I have put down 539rwhp 578rwtq in 95* heat with no meth, 16* timing and 10psi boost. Another 100-150rwhp should be possible when I get the meth hooked up, and crank the boost + cooler weather. There is a link to pics of my set-up in my sig. I know this is a truck but with this particular type of set-up space shouldn't be much of a factor.

And yes, Parish8 put down 1011rwhp with a single log set-up and truck manifold similar to mine. He had a T88. You can go to 1320video to see the vid of it.
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Originally Posted by JZ 97 SS 1500
We made on a customers car a little over 650rwhp (~18psi)on an LT1 a few years back. BUT, at 14psi we had 45psi of backpressure. Swapping from log to a header style system dropped backpressure from 45 to 29. Car picked up a shade over 100rwhp. So something to think about....., also EGT's dropped down ~250deg.
What was done with the downpipe and exhaust?

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Still stayed as a 3" and the exhaust was an SLP 2 on the left.
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Originally Posted by JZ 97 SS 1500
Still stayed as a 3" and the exhaust was an SLP 2 on the left.
That's interesting and doesn't reflect the results we got on mine versus the SBC 377.

Mine: 363 cid, log header, T76GTS, 3" downpipe, 3.5" exhaust over the axle, no muffler.
Results: 18 psi boost, 34 psi backpressure.

Airboat: 377 cid, tubular headers, T76GTS, 3.5" downpipe only 2' long, no exhaust or muffler.
Results: 18 psi boost, 26 psi backpressure.

Perhaps my log header is a better design than most. It's 3" in diameter and 3 of the tubes merge into it. Only #1 T's in at 90 deg.

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Originally Posted by engineermike
That's interesting and doesn't reflect the results we got on mine versus the SBC 377.

Mine: 363 cid, log header, T76GTS, 3" downpipe, 3.5" exhaust over the axle, no muffler.
Results: 18 psi boost, 34 psi backpressure.

Airboat: 377 cid, tubular headers, T76GTS, 3.5" downpipe only 2' long, no exhaust or muffler.
Results: 18 psi boost, 26 psi backpressure.

Perhaps my log header is a better design than most. It's 3" in diameter and 3 of the tubes merge into it. Only #1 T's in at 90 deg.

Mike

3" log .


This was a 2.5" log .
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Originally Posted by bowtieman81
Wait till heat transfer
yeah thats next, blah
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In my first year, when I was in Caluclus, everyone said it was a "weed out class" and it would get easier.

In my second year, when I moved on to Statics and Dynamics, everyone said they were "weed out classes" and it would get easier after that.

In my third year, when I took Thermo, Heat Transfer, and Fluids, everyone said they were serious business now that I got all the easy stuff out of the way.

In the last year, I took Machine Design and many people struggled, though I took to it well since it was crank-slider (crank, rod, piston), cam lobes design , etc. . .

The point is that no Semester of Engineering school is easy.

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Originally Posted by engineermike
In my first year, when I was in Caluclus, everyone said it was a "weed out class" and it would get easier.

In my second year, when I moved on to Statics and Dynamics, everyone said they were "weed out classes" and it would get easier after that.

In my third year, when I took Thermo, Heat Transfer, and Fluids, everyone said they were serious business now that I got all the easy stuff out of the way.

In the last year, I took Machine Design and many people struggled, though I took to it well since it was crank-slider (crank, rod, piston), cam lobes design , etc. . .

The point is that no Semester of Engineering school is easy.

Mike
I agree. I've taken thermo1, taking fluids, and still need to take heat transfer. I've taken Machine Design1 (we have 2 semesters of it) and everybody struggled. The teacher was hard core. Not many crank-slider problems in my class....bastard lol
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Was this a TTi LT1 log setup?

Originally Posted by JZ 97 SS 1500
We made on a customers car a little over 650rwhp (~18psi)on an LT1 a few years back. BUT, at 14psi we had 45psi of backpressure. Swapping from log to a header style system dropped backpressure from 45 to 29. Car picked up a shade over 100rwhp. So something to think about....., also EGT's dropped down ~250deg.

Jose



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