F-body Turbo Kit
Originally Posted by CAT3
someone mentioned chinese made, but only thing on their site is german engineered...doubt its a garrett at those prices, but bottom line, if it puts the power down like the Goats does, I am definately more than just interested.
I believe someone already mentioned the kit is more of a street oriented version for 500-600hp. Looking at the turbo selection, there is the larger KKR430 which would definately be more capable of loads for increased power. Anyway, details. At this point, I would take a turbo kit like they made for the GTO's even if it only puts down 600rwhp max. Its a great looking kit, with no log mani issues etc...
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Thanks for the kind responses guys. However first things first. I dont want to fall foul of management here at this stage, so as they say the links/prices etc can stay away till we have signed up sponsorship going on.
We have however probably butted our head into the hardest part of the F-body market. I am absolutely astounded and horrified when I read of the actions of some of these turbo ppl and companies. Its like a battlefield with the wounded walking around dazed under the promise of delivery from what are very obviously two-bit tin-pot operations. Harsh words from a newbie like me, but need to be said...as these ppl and companies are doing their very best to destroy an entire industry..
Also for those that want to know, I do in fact know Dave Inall. He lives in another part of the country, and I have spoken to him at shows etc. Seems like a nice enough person to dialougue with....but just letting you know there is ABSOLUTELY NO LINK there
Heres the deal then...we wont ask for your money up front for the F-body kit. We dont really want or need it. We wont allow a product to be paid for unless it has a guranteed 10 day to freight lead time. And we will wait until there are twenty complete kits sitting on the shelf in our operations warehouse (which will be photographed and posted here) before letting you know they are available....and we will be sponsors before any of this happens.
I can see this is going to be a long process of building trust and relationships in a market thats been burnt so hard, but dont despair we are up for it!
We have however probably butted our head into the hardest part of the F-body market. I am absolutely astounded and horrified when I read of the actions of some of these turbo ppl and companies. Its like a battlefield with the wounded walking around dazed under the promise of delivery from what are very obviously two-bit tin-pot operations. Harsh words from a newbie like me, but need to be said...as these ppl and companies are doing their very best to destroy an entire industry..
Also for those that want to know, I do in fact know Dave Inall. He lives in another part of the country, and I have spoken to him at shows etc. Seems like a nice enough person to dialougue with....but just letting you know there is ABSOLUTELY NO LINK there
Heres the deal then...we wont ask for your money up front for the F-body kit. We dont really want or need it. We wont allow a product to be paid for unless it has a guranteed 10 day to freight lead time. And we will wait until there are twenty complete kits sitting on the shelf in our operations warehouse (which will be photographed and posted here) before letting you know they are available....and we will be sponsors before any of this happens.
I can see this is going to be a long process of building trust and relationships in a market thats been burnt so hard, but dont despair we are up for it!
Cool, glad to see you are taking up the challenge of the notorious turbo LS1 F body market...Good Luck. Keep the promises few and let the kits speak for themselves....promises have been know to bite the others in the ***
As for the whole nose issue. Yes the camaro, Firebird Formula and Trans Am all have different noses. It is no issue to fit the same intercooler that you run on your GTO kit, into any of these noses. Plenty of room is there. Some people don't want to cut up the nose to allow for airflow to the FMIC(T/A, Formula guys), but some others have no problem with it.
Thats going to be the issue to cut the nose or not to cut the nose
Search FMIC here and you should be able to bring up a ton of pics on FMIC installs on all 3 types of noses.
J
As for the whole nose issue. Yes the camaro, Firebird Formula and Trans Am all have different noses. It is no issue to fit the same intercooler that you run on your GTO kit, into any of these noses. Plenty of room is there. Some people don't want to cut up the nose to allow for airflow to the FMIC(T/A, Formula guys), but some others have no problem with it.
Thats going to be the issue to cut the nose or not to cut the nose
Search FMIC here and you should be able to bring up a ton of pics on FMIC installs on all 3 types of noses.J
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Hi Martin! Although I toyed with getting a car to send you, my wife reminded me I already have 3 car/projects [see the sig here!] but I think you can find someone here.
Board: I have no connection w/ him or his company, but I am quite pleased w/ what I see. As I posted above, this is a setup for a nice street driver, not a psycho 800-1000 rwhp car [and yes, I realize that there are some around here with street cars like that]. But virtually INSTANT 8-10psi sounds good to me...and I'll be glad to give more feedback when my GTO is operational in a couple of weeks. Over on LS1GTO.com there is already an install being documented that is about finished. His is a modified engine, where is mine is a totally stock LS2 [that has been "loosened up" for a few thousand miles w/ an STS].
One of you needs to step up to the plate QUICKLY!
Board: I have no connection w/ him or his company, but I am quite pleased w/ what I see. As I posted above, this is a setup for a nice street driver, not a psycho 800-1000 rwhp car [and yes, I realize that there are some around here with street cars like that]. But virtually INSTANT 8-10psi sounds good to me...and I'll be glad to give more feedback when my GTO is operational in a couple of weeks. Over on LS1GTO.com there is already an install being documented that is about finished. His is a modified engine, where is mine is a totally stock LS2 [that has been "loosened up" for a few thousand miles w/ an STS].
One of you needs to step up to the plate QUICKLY!
Martin, were you asking about front mount intercoolers? The Firebird/TransAm nose is 'smaller' so that the biggest intercooler you can fit in a Camaro will not fit in a Firebird. It's a matter of a few inches in width.
Personally, I think you should keep the total cost of the kit more open-ended, and quote the final price once you have actually made some kits. Folks have the best of intentions, but it's easy for the price of a kit to go up a thousand bucks. A profitable company is a happy company. When you are ready to sponsor, give me or Tony (Nine Ball) a holler.
Personally, I think you should keep the total cost of the kit more open-ended, and quote the final price once you have actually made some kits. Folks have the best of intentions, but it's easy for the price of a kit to go up a thousand bucks. A profitable company is a happy company. When you are ready to sponsor, give me or Tony (Nine Ball) a holler.
Originally Posted by weaponZ
what would be the estimated turnaround time for a donor car?i might be interested in helping out.
I think I already got a lead on this one
Waiting on frieght movers quote, prefered port and list of requirements for importing into Australia, some of the issues are no problem for a temporary visit, like the Au. Mandatory safety inspection, but others seem to lead from one form to another...red-tape muck. Nothing wrong with keeping up on this so if something prevents me from going you got it covered. Charlie
It would be nice if you could figure out how to do one on an LT1 style T/A front end, Like on www.ws6.com at the top without cutting. could always just buy the separate nose piece anyhow.
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Originally Posted by Street Tuna
Ok guys we have our car coming now....its an 02 model, in Aussie in 40 days, will have a sponsors section and a full pictorial build up going on. Cant wait to start development
02 Trans Am right?
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Originally Posted by Street Tuna
Now a question...
The Fbody cars come with many different noses I presume...so which one is the 'hardest' front bar to get an intercooler behind...as that will be the car we want
The Fbody cars come with many different noses I presume...so which one is the 'hardest' front bar to get an intercooler behind...as that will be the car we want
If you can come up with a sweet intercooler for this front end without modifications, then you are a God! Oh, and I prefer twins!
Originally Posted by Somebody09
I think the hardest one is that found on Formulas. I have a Formy. Our fog lights are not conveniently placed in the center for a quick intercooler hack-job. Yes, there's a plate cover that can be hacked, but I think that looks trashy, and I don't want to be seen driving around trash.
If you can come up with a sweet intercooler for this front end without modifications, then you are a God! Oh, and I prefer twins!
If you can come up with a sweet intercooler for this front end without modifications, then you are a God! Oh, and I prefer twins!
Why dont you mount one like Hi Flo, horizontal?