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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 03:44 PM
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Almost got my car back last night, dyno'd until almost 9:00 P.M. and didn't have a small enough pulley. Supposed to have a new pulley tomorrow and have it finished. It was cool to see it though, its been awhile. I have to say, the fab work FLP did is very nice, and the install is clean. Car sounds mean and just violent on the dyno, even if it "only" made 600 RWHP on 9 lbs. at 5400 RPM so far. Convertor wouldn't stay locked when the power went up.

And no, my intercooler IS straight, but the tanks are tapered so it looks crooked. Its also very thick, very nice peice built by PTE. I have an SLP grill that will go in sometimes as well, just to "hide" stuff.

Can't wait to drive it, should be done tomorrow sometime. Gonna go Sunday and pick it up, Dan is going to meet me on his 1 day off so I can get it.
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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More pics. Your car is nice.
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 04:29 PM
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That is great... That thing looks AWESOME bud. I bet it runs even better!
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 10:16 PM
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I'll get more/better pics when I get it home and cleaned up. Heres a couple before the build, aside from the front end, its the same.
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Looks good man..What kind of hood is that??
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 09:35 AM
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Glasstek 4" cowl, bolt on.
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and im guessin those are 325's?
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 06:18 PM
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Yeah.
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sweet ride bro, any more info on your setup
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Its an iron block 408 and D1SC, and because it doesn't have enough fuel system (yet) and its on a 4L60E we're not really stressing anything, plus its a pump gas setup. Its up to 650 rwhp now, probably the limit for the fueling. Most people will look at the 408 and say I should have went with the F1, big *** fuel system, Th400, etc, but its a street car and even hooking what it has now will be hard. We talked about an F1 and 700+ RWHP, but I really don't want to go TH400 and spool, and all that stuff. It'll go 10's like this and that enough for now. But we had the motor built to handle it, Dart heads, 1/2" head studs, all the goodies. That way if I want more power I just change the head unit and fueling and away we go.
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pics from under the hood???? I'm curious...
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Didn't get any, it was on the dyno all night and I never thought to take any shots. You can't see much anyway, other than the ceramic coated piping. Otherwise its just a stock intake, TB, etc.
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awesome, man
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nice car man. love the black. I'm thinking I want a black SS or WS6 now to add to my stable.
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nice car man. love the black. I'm thinking I want a black SS or WS6 now to add to my stable.
Whenever you get sick of that SOM beast, drop it off in my stable then lol

Lookin good TS6. Im with some of the others you said, and think you should've gone w/ the F1 at least. BUT, it sounds like you're more concerned with driveability then overall power so the D1 is probably a good choice (besides, its not like the 408 wont make power )

Sounds like you've got a hellacious car on your hands. The next dyno time, you gotta bring a video camera instead. Its always nice to see/hear a badass LS1 turning the rollers.
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I got video, but I don't have any way to load it to my PC. I'm getting a firewire port put in soon, so I can download my movies to the PC (old *** Dell). Till then, everyones welcome to come over and watch it on my TV lol!

Yeah, I considered going with the F1, but several factors changed my mind:

1: I am trying to make my built 4L60E live behind this thing for awhile.

2: I didn't want to spend the extra money on the bigger head unit and more fuel system. I'm on stock lines and rails, with a bosch pump, and thats about maxed now.

3: The fastest car I've ever had was making maybe 500 rwhp, so jumping up even 150 more is alot. I've run this car on motor only and was making about 440 rwhp, so another 210 on this particular vehicle will be huge. I only wanted streetable 10's, and this will be plenty to do it. I also have a nitrous system installed, and when the fuel system gets upgraded, we'll spray it. That'll be way more than I'll ever need.

Originally, when we decided to do this project, I was just going to use my motor, have it rebuilt, and go with a 4" crank to make what, 370 c.i.? I was going to have to get new heads, rotating assembly, etc. My motor was in great condition so I said as long as I'm paying the machine bill to do all this, lets just use a new block so I can sell mine complete. And since I might make more power down the road, I said lets use an iron block. Might as well be a 408, doesn't cost any more or less. Its got more potential, so I don't have to worry if I upgrade. I might have gotten $1500 out of my old heads, crank, cam, etc., but instead I sold my longblock for $3100. It was actually cheaper to go 408 instead of using my existing motor!

Also, the car does see some street action, so traction is an issue, and making more power might not help at all.

Now if only it wasn't so heavy!
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Whenever you get sick of that SOM beast, drop it off in my stable then lol

Lookin good TS6. Im with some of the others you said, and think you should've gone w/ the F1 at least. BUT, it sounds like you're more concerned with driveability then overall power so the D1 is probably a good choice (besides, its not like the 408 wont make power )

Sounds like you've got a hellacious car on your hands. The next dyno time, you gotta bring a video camera instead. Its always nice to see/hear a badass LS1 turning the rollers.
Nobody else in this post stated that he should have gone with an F1. Not every car has to be built to make the most power. How much is usable on the street anyway? A car with over 600 rwhp is enough the way it is in my opinion. My old set up made 500 rwhp and I made the jump to 770 rwhp. I had no idea what it would be like with that kind of increase. Sam's car will make a lot of power... safe and reliable power that is on 93 octane. And when he upgrades the fuel system, he can spray it for some more power.

Here is a similar set up that FLP built (408 LS2 block) but with a fuel system, F1, and a F.A.S.T. intake and throttle body. Roughly going to be 60 to 100 hp difference.
747 hp & 697 tq on 93 octane at 17#s of boost and 889 hp & 760 tq on 93 octane with 75 shot of nitrous. Will the owner ever use that power? Helllllllllllllllllllllllllll no.


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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 10:27 AM
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Yeah, I'm not trying to build a dyno queen, rather make usuable power. I think I can make 600 rwhp hook, and I think my tranny will work with it. 700+ rwhp cars sound cool on paper, but can be just scary on the street. I've beaten faster cars with my 440 rwhp just because I hook and they don't. Its hard to catch an 11 second car with a 10 second car when he puts 4 cars on you off the line.
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Yeah, we are doing a fuel system. Had to, just couldn't keep up. So here comes more power!

Now if someone at Behind bars would answer the phone, we'd be set.....
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