OK, trying to install my TTi T76 kit and I cannot get the crossover in at all on the passenger side (stock manifold). Looks like it wont fit in the space no matter what I try. I took the starter out completely, and it wont go in. Can somebody tell me what is wrong?

 

Ask the other dude what year exhaust manifold he was running... They are different depending on year...

Ryan K.

 

He isnt going to tell me. He wont respond to me at all.

From the looks of it I think it is an 01. Looks like my buddies 01 SS manifolds.

 

If I remember correctly, it was a 6.0 truck manifold....

I heard that almost a year ago when he bought the car with the kit on it. (He later upgraded to a larger turbo unit.) ~Joshua

 

Well, I just compared it to the 2001 SS manifolds, they are identical. I also looked at my original 2000 manifolds and the only differnce between my 00 and the one matt gave me is the hole for the AIR system. Otherwise same.

So what gives? I guess his tubular k member allowed him to get that crossover on his car. But what the hell is that crossover for? I wonder if he made it himself. Either way it looks like I have a crossover that is useless to me.

 

Hmmm. Hopefully tomorrow one of the other TTi guys will chime in.

 

a cross over brings the exhaust to the other side. to run through the turbo. you need it.

 

Yeah, either he used a different passanger manifold or made that cusutom crossover based off of a tubular K-memeber that gave a little more ground clearance. FYI the 98-99 fbody and all truck manifolds are different than your stock manifolds, and as Ryan said, maybe it's set-up for one of those.

 

Well, the thing is he supposedly sent me the manifold he used, it is coated and it looks identical to a 2000 and 2001 manifold. That is it in the pics above.

I am thinking that he either made a crossover or altered the one TTi supplied for his setup. If that is the case it means once again he has shafted me. I know that TTi supplies a crossover that will work with a stock k member. I know the crossmember I have will NOT work, there is no way it will fit without some major modification to it. He specifically said the kit was complete as it came from TTi.

Something aint adding up here. Wish I never bought this in the first place, should have just bought a new kit.

 

what transmission did he have, the auto was different from the mannual.

 

He had a six speed, I made sure to ask about that.

From PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bowtieman81
Matt, was going over my notes. I just want to verify that the kit you have is for a 6 speed car. I think I asked you, but can't find the answer. Thanks.



Yes it is. It has the crossover pipe for it.

 

bowtie mans drives a trans am? *head tilt* hahaha

anyways id just pickup the phone and call tti, perhaps they can tell you whats goin on. they are real helpful on the phone, when i was installing the TTi kit on my vette they were very good about helpin me when i called.

 

the 2002 truck manifold would put that connection point farther to the rear might clear that starter area. Not sure though, there was a pic of the truck 2002 manifold on here somewhere just can not find it.
Worst case you could build a spacer to make that area work, if you had too..

Ricky

 

Making fun of my name Zach At least the TA has a bowtie engine powering it.

Here is what TTi said:
That is the old cross over pipe. The new one is 2.5". That cross over almost looks like it was for an automatic transmission according to George.

How much power are you trying to make?

 

I thought about a spacer, but the thing is if I use a spacer it won't bolt up to the log then because it wont line up with the log. I was measuring to see if a spacer would work, and I would need some sort of spacer on both sides to make it work. The log spacer would have to be curved too; PITA.

 

nah im not makin fun of you, i love the "bowtie" thing, its my license plate on the trailblazer "bowtie 2" haha, i was just confused as to your pontiacage with bowtieage.

gl with the build, headaches this early in the installtion usually spell disaster

 

You mentioned that the manifold he sent you was coated. I know for a fact that the stock manifold that was in his car was coated. Then he did give you the same one in his car.

He does have an aftermarket k-member. Don't know which one though. To also verify, he does have a 6 speed.

 

The car he had this kit on is a 2000 right? Did he ever have the kit on the car without the aftermarket k member?

 

I'm not certain if his is a 2000 or 2001. I'd guess it was a 00 though. Which doesn't matter because that coated manifold was the one that was on the car.

He bought the car used with the kit installed and it already had the aftermarket k-member installed in addition to whatever coated manifold that he included. (Don't know for certain what the manifold was, but I thought the coated manifold was from a truck. )

After a while he simply added a larger turbo unit and drove it for 300 miles before he wanted more than the TTi street kit would support and he sold whatever was on the car.

 

Holy ****! Josh, no offense to you but your buddy Matt is a liar! He told me he bought the kit from TTi new. He never said **** about buying the car used with the kit already on it. No wonder half the **** is not correct or does not fit. That is complete and utter BS what he told me. Here are some excperts from his PMs to me:

"I have had about enough of this crap with you questioning this questioning that. I have too much other stuff to deal with and worry about than this. The kit is the upgraded one with the T-76 and thats all I have to say. It is as described I called TTI and yes I ordered the right one and yes its the right kit. I told you the stuff that was altered on the kit over the phone."

"The stuff I ordered from them is the TTI Street kit with the T-76 with all the upgrades. I have looked at your pics and it does measure 3 inches. I sold you the kit with all the upgrades from TTI how it came from them."

"The kit is not older than a year old for a fact. I don't care what anyone says maybe they had it on there shelf and thats what they sent I don't know. When I ordered it I had the T-76 upgrade and everything that went with it. I will get you your instructions and I will get you the other intercooler and I will call on the crossover that you say is wrong and the downpipe and see how much they are but I'm not promising anything on those because TTI is extremily expensive on everything. That kit you have cost me over $6000.00 new when I got it."

"I also talked to TTI and they quoted me the same prices on the down pipe and crossover and they said as far as my kit that I ordered it was purchased in Novemeber and that I did get the T-76 with all the upgrades possible with the 3 inch downpipe and 2.5 crossover and godzilla BOV and the total was $6,282.12 and they told me since its been so long and I have used the kit and since sold the kit that they can't do anything or that they did anything wrong even though you say they did."

Matt insisted his kit was not even a year old and purchased in November, let look at this post:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction/384816-tti-kit-lots-smoke-out-exhaust-help.html

Also, I talked to Nick at TTi myself and asked him to look up what Matt ordered from them. He said Matt was not even in the system. I found that odd, but now it makes sense. He never bought anything from them.

He lied from beginning about this crap, screwed me out of some expensive parts, and passed on his fu**ed up kit to me.

Mods, can give your opinon here?