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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 08:49 PM
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Default i just found out what meth really is!

you could say i was alittle ignorant about meth inj. i put all this effort into turboing and superchagring but i never put any effort into what meth is and how it works...... i remeber a while ago the only people i ever heard who used meth were the STS kit people so i kinda didnt think it applied to me all that much....

well today i had a little talk with snow performance, and found out all about their meth system. i have a new found respect for it adn what it does! i was alwasy under the impression that its like nitrous, it makes power and u have to refill it with not so cheap stuff at special places! i neevr knew u could just order 4 gallons of it for 30 bucks! well i think its a great way to make some extra power more reliably, and they make really good safety systems for it, so im gonna add it to my sticky about turboing/supercharging the reliable way. i would love to get it for myself but im way overbudget
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 08:57 PM
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Why didn't you just ask about it here

Its pretty cool stuff, but kinda spooky if the pump quits or something goes wrong like forgetting to arm it/turn it on... Its pretty good insurance against detonation and allows you to run more timing per PSI than pump gas alone.

You really have to lean out the tune when spraying the meth, you'll be shocked at how much fuel you'll have to remove in order to get your a/f back in line.

You can find it locally at just about any race shop, circle track place for under 3 a gallon.

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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 2002/Black/SS
i neevr knew u could just order 4 gallons of it for 30 bucks!
Wow, man, I'll sell you as much as you want at that price! I pay $10 for 4 gallons and it lasts me 6 months. $2.50 - $3.00/gallon is the going price for Meth.
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 09:01 PM
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No joke, 5 gallons has lasted me a long time. One more WW tank refill and i'll have to go get some more, but this 5 gallons has lasted me about 3 months....really used quite a bit in the beginning when tuning it in.

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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 09:03 PM
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He's prolly paying some hazardous material shipping fee at that cost... it's like that with the meth/nitro fuel that hobby engines burn.
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 09:04 PM
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I need to do some more reading about it myself... any good links?
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by frcefed98
Its pretty cool stuff, but kinda spooky if the pump quits or something goes wrong like forgetting to arm it/turn it on...
snow told me about their new safety setup that reads teh boost and compares it to the meth flow, if it drops (meth isnt there), it has a 12 volt line that can be connected to a special connection that attaches to the WG and realease the WG therefore killing all boost and saving ur engine





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I need to do some more reading about it myself... any good links?
i just called snow performance, he stayed ont he phone with me till i asked every question i wanted to

the reason i say 30 buck for 4 gallons is because the price for it online is 15 plus shipping for 4 gallons by mail. i havent really looked around here but im sure i could get it cheaper
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 09:14 PM
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My question is with meth... can i have a tune set up at 6 lbs (jsut throwing numbers out for example) and up the boost to 8 and turn the meth on (with the right meth jets)?

Simple... does this make sence? Or is it better to just up timing? Because upping timing for meth use is not so convienent for my stock lt1 pcm...
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 10:42 PM
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Meth injection added to sticky!
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by frcefed98
Its pretty cool stuff, but kinda spooky if the pump quits or something goes wrong like forgetting to arm it/turn it on...
That's just bull ****. I ran out of meth on the dyno on a 700 rwhp pull and didn't harm a thing. Lots of other variables.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 01:06 AM
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That's just bull ****. I ran out of meth on the dyno on a 700 rwhp pull and didn't harm a thing. Lots of other variables.
so ur saying that 100% nothign could go wrong if my meth pump just quits out of no where? even if i have my motor on a ragged edge tune to make teh most power and my boost turned up as much as it can on a stock block and im in teh middle of a WOT run on the highway, my car will be fine????? if nothing happens then ur right, but if soemthing does go wrong u should give me ur address so i can send u the bill (not trying to be mean or anything)
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 01:30 AM
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So is meth just as effective on a supercharged car as a turbo car? Just curious.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Country Boy
I need to do some more reading about it myself... any good links?

http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=14
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by mdhmi
That's just bull ****. I ran out of meth on the dyno on a 700 rwhp pull and didn't harm a thing. Lots of other variables.
Why do you even have it then?

I've wasted more than my share of motors because of problems in my Meth system.

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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by mdhmi
That's just bull ****. I ran out of meth on the dyno on a 700 rwhp pull and didn't harm a thing. Lots of other variables.
Yeah but that's YOUR setup.... if meth is used as a supplement because there really isn't enough fuel available to the engine and it quits they will see a massive lean hit combined with climbing IATs... Not everyone has been so lucky.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 06:57 AM
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My meth pump went out at the track and I didn't know it. Luckily it was a cool fall day but I still had a lot of detonation during the pass. I have a pump test button on the controller and now I test the pump before racing.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Dragframe
My question is with meth... can i have a tune set up at 6 lbs (jsut throwing numbers out for example) and up the boost to 8 and turn the meth on (with the right meth jets)?

Simple... does this make sence? Or is it better to just up timing? Because upping timing for meth use is not so convienent for my stock lt1 pcm...
A good meth kit allows you to adjust what boost level you want the meth to come on at. You also control the speed of the pump, so "jetting" isnt necessary. You ant more flow, speed up the pump.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 08:22 AM
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cant you just get a hobs switch and have it turn on when your a/f ratio starts leaning out?
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 02Vortech
cant you just get a hobs switch and have it turn on when your a/f ratio starts leaning out?
??? Fairly certain a hobbs switch is activated by pressure...
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 02Vortech
cant you just get a hobs switch and have it turn on when your a/f ratio starts leaning out?
That's really flirting with disaster!
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