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Old 03-05-2007, 01:33 PM
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I say it wouldnt hurt...But at the same time what about guys like Worm Boy and Last LS1, did/do they run girdles? I guess Im what Im trying to figure out as well is, when exactly is the girdle (or even doweling) recommended.
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Originally Posted by Phil99vette
Do you think its necessary for a girdle on an iron block shooting for over 1200hp?
No. I would dowel the mains though. Keeping the mains from walking is what I would focus on. That girdle won't do it.
We had an iron block with stock caps and a girdle making 1500+. When tore down the bearings were great but the caps had been walking. I had a LS2 block with stock caps and no girdle. Making 1300+. When tore down the bearings were good but the caps had walked.
One of the new motors ERL/W2W is building for us will have doweled billet mains and the W2W girdle. Were shooting for 1800+ though.
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Mike you suck!! 1900hp!! My iron block mains walked but the bearings looked fine. (no girdle)....weird feeling to see they walked but bearings be fine.
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Originally Posted by Got Me SOM
just clicked his website, for 400 bux its well worth the investment phil.
Id go with W2W's girdle, its better engineered using the pan rails tied in as well.
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Originally Posted by motorbuilt
Id go with W2W's girdle, its better engineered using the pan rails tied in as well.
That's what we had on our iron block and will now be put on our new ERL block. It is definitely better then the dmperf. one. But it still doesn't keep the caps from walking. It really isn't needed unless your north of 1500hp. Then I would dowel the caps as well.
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Mike you suck!! 1900hp!! My iron block mains walked but the bearings looked fine. (no girdle)....weird feeling to see they walked but bearings be fine.
Well if your going to run 7's at 190 you have to.
I know what you mean. If you seen the ones that came off my LS2 you would think the bearings would be junk. But even after all those passes at that power. The bearings were like new.
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Mike what effects did the walking of the mains have on the motor's life if the bearings were still like new???
Still be bale to run the motor?? Notice anything different while running it???
You say not needed for us guys around 1000hp.......
needed for1500rwhp or flywheel??

Kyle
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Originally Posted by NA$TY-TA
Mike what effects did the walking of the mains have on the motor's life if the bearings were still like new???
Still be bale to run the motor?? Notice anything different while running it???
You say not needed for us guys around 1000hp.......
needed for1500rwhp or flywheel??

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From what I know it didn't cause any problems. But it shows that things are moving around that shouldn't be. I'm guessing after a while one would start chewing up the other.
That hp was fwhp and was about the W2W girdle. I'm not going to be running one on my new TA motor this season. So we will have a good comparison between the two. Mine will have doweled billet mains though.
If your only making a 1000hp you have nothing to worry about.
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Mike,
what do you think about a setup making around 1200fwhp but the rpm's were kept below 7200...Will that help keep the caps from walking at all?
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Originally Posted by TwnTrboCE
From what I know it didn't cause any problems. But it shows that things are moving around that shouldn't be. I'm guessing after a while one would start chewing up the other.
That hp was fwhp and was about the W2W girdle. I'm not going to be running one on my new TA motor this season. So we will have a good comparison between the two. Mine will have doweled billet mains though.
If your only making a 1000hp you have nothing to worry about.


a ha ha u said ONLY 1000hp..... we figure im making around 1100fwhp on 20 psi....... will soon be more when she goes back to see Joe and Harlan.....
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wow...how much that car weigh to run that number?
Old 03-06-2007, 07:59 AM
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I love these sick HP threads!
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anyone have any data on the L92 blocks? any advantage to running that to get a little more displacement?
Old 03-06-2007, 03:31 PM
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Man I'm really squeezing my lil 347ci LS6 block... everyone else is running 36_ - 42_ci setups.
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
Man I'm really squeezing my lil 347ci LS6 block... everyone else is running 36_ - 42_ci setups.
lol Im still 347 for the time being
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
Man I'm really squeezing my lil 347ci LS6 block... everyone else is running 36_ - 42_ci setups.

But that's a good thing!


It seems that 4 digit real wheel horsepower numbers are at the edge of but within the realm of the stock LS1/6 block.
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I'm sure my longblock could do 1000rwhp but I'd want all the folks at the dyno session to stand behind a wall made out of cinderblocks and to sign a waiver.
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aluminum 346....couple of track passes and it will puff like a choo choo i bet with the block distortion.
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Originally Posted by Tiago
lol Im still 347 for the time being
aww hell whats up your sleeve now? L92?



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