Twin Turbo Dyno Video
Originally Posted by Hennytime
so what potential does this kit have on 93 octane with a sick *** fuel system, th400/12 rear and that 370ci motor
I guess ya missed post # 9 HUH???
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Originally Posted by INTMD8
I would feel comfortable with around 12psi/625rwhp on 93 octane. Could probably get away with more but I think good fuel is cheap insurance.
The customer wanted a T400 because of cost and reliability. It should cruise fine on the hwy with 3.08 gears.
As far as clearancing, the head of the passenger side motor mount bolt had to be ground flush, and a small section of the top of the motor mount bracket had to be clearanced. The GT35R's fit much better. As to which turbos are better, the GT35R's have a 61mm compressor wheel and the PT67's have a 67mm compressor wheel. The 67's should be capable of a bit more power but I won't know until we run a similar combination with the GT35R's.
The turbo system will absolutely not work with the stock K-member.
The customer wanted a T400 because of cost and reliability. It should cruise fine on the hwy with 3.08 gears.
As far as clearancing, the head of the passenger side motor mount bolt had to be ground flush, and a small section of the top of the motor mount bracket had to be clearanced. The GT35R's fit much better. As to which turbos are better, the GT35R's have a 61mm compressor wheel and the PT67's have a 67mm compressor wheel. The 67's should be capable of a bit more power but I won't know until we run a similar combination with the GT35R's.
The turbo system will absolutely not work with the stock K-member.
Looking awsome guys.....
Originally Posted by NA$TY-TA
I guess ya missed post # 9 HUH???
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Post # 9
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Post # 9
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Yeh, Jim actually is the designer of this awesome kit, which i just spoke to Frasier on the line about, wink wink. I am currently seeking the ball bearing setup, which rates around 9200, not bad considering i already got my BS3 from the Mrs. for Christmas!!! Awesome Kit, i wish i had more footage to see..
Originally Posted by Hennytime
i thought he was reffering to something else because thats pretty ******* weak for the amount of money spent for 625rwhp, **** thats attainable wit ha h/c nitrous package on a stock shortblock.
Originally Posted by Got Me SOM
do yourself a favor and shut up now.
now dont get confused im speaking in a general sense, not trying to knock speed inc or their products because they do a hell of a job, but that set up should yield a whole lot more than 625 on 93 oct.
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Originally Posted by Hennytime
if you spent 20k-30k and resulted with 625rwhp would you feel cheated?
now dont get confused im speaking in a general sense, not trying to knock speed inc or their products because they do a hell of a job, but that set up should yield a whole lot more than 625 on 93 oct.
now dont get confused im speaking in a general sense, not trying to knock speed inc or their products because they do a hell of a job, but that set up should yield a whole lot more than 625 on 93 oct.
The only way to find the true limit is to push it on 93 until it breaks. If you want to donate your engine for testing I'll be happy to find out that limit, but generally our customers would prefer us to stay conservative when pushing nearly 1000 crank horsepower with their brand new combination.
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Originally Posted by INTMD8
As stated, I believe good gas is cheap insurance. Their is nothing about this combination that would allow you to push it -less- than any other on pump gas.
The only way to find the true limit is to push it on 93 until it breaks. If you want to donate your engine for testing I'll be happy to find out that limit, but generally our customers would prefer us to stay conservative when pushing nearly 1000 crank horsepower with their brand new combination.
The only way to find the true limit is to push it on 93 until it breaks. If you want to donate your engine for testing I'll be happy to find out that limit, but generally our customers would prefer us to stay conservative when pushing nearly 1000 crank horsepower with their brand new combination.
Jim, do you tune the cars with a dual spark map? The way I have mine setup is to pull 4 degrees of timing accros the board if the computer senses low octane fuel. That way I can have my cake and eat it too! basically it is a fail safe incase the pump it putting out something lower then 93 octane. This allows you to run around with 800+ rwhp and not worry.
Originally Posted by MonkeyBoneSS
what did you do for the fuel system set up on his ride?
nice Jim.....you and your shop do good work.
I just wished that HP tuners made a 3-bar SD conversion for '98's.......I'd turn mine up to 20+ PSI.....
I just wished that HP tuners made a 3-bar SD conversion for '98's.......I'd turn mine up to 20+ PSI.....
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Thanks for the compliments guys, I appreciate it.
Nitrorocket- I prefer to stay conservative enough with boost/timing/octane to stay out of knock alltogether at this HP level. I just don't feel comfortable trying to run alot of boost on 93 octane and relying on the knock sensors to kick it down to a lower octane timing table. (which just tells me it should be running better fuel)
Nitrorocket- I prefer to stay conservative enough with boost/timing/octane to stay out of knock alltogether at this HP level. I just don't feel comfortable trying to run alot of boost on 93 octane and relying on the knock sensors to kick it down to a lower octane timing table. (which just tells me it should be running better fuel)
Originally Posted by INTMD8
Thanks for the compliments guys, I appreciate it.
Nitrorocket- I prefer to stay conservative enough with boost/timing/octane to stay out of knock alltogether at this HP level. I just don't feel comfortable trying to run alot of boost on 93 octane and relying on the knock sensors to kick it down to a lower octane timing table. (which just tells me it should be running better fuel)
Nitrorocket- I prefer to stay conservative enough with boost/timing/octane to stay out of knock alltogether at this HP level. I just don't feel comfortable trying to run alot of boost on 93 octane and relying on the knock sensors to kick it down to a lower octane timing table. (which just tells me it should be running better fuel)
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I think what Jim is trying to say is that they keep it at a very conservative 625 RWHP for pump gas, the kind of conservative setting where you could beat on it at WOT for 5 miles at a time and have the car not skip a beat. I'm sure you could push it harder, they just don't want anyone with busted ringlands coming back to their shop and complaining. Not to mention this is through a T400 with what looks to be an unlocked converter, so you're seeing a ton of loss through that. 625 RWHP would push you into the 9's with even a heavy F-body.
Originally Posted by eviltwins
I think what Jim is trying to say is that they keep it at a very conservative 625 RWHP for pump gas, the kind of conservative setting where you could beat on it at WOT for 5 miles at a time and have the car not skip a beat. I'm sure you could push it harder, they just don't want anyone with busted ringlands coming back to their shop and complaining. Not to mention this is through a T400 with what looks to be an unlocked converter, so you're seeing a ton of loss through that. 625 RWHP would push you into the 9's with even a heavy F-body.
Yeah Jim would not tune a 93 pump gas combo to the edge and then give it to the customer.
Andy why don't you hold off until tuning it up until around September, let me catch a bit more, I'm over a second slower than you right now.
Andy why don't you hold off until tuning it up until around September, let me catch a bit more, I'm over a second slower than you right now.