Hi
I am building a 346 LS1 soon.
with Eagle 6.125 H-beams rods , diamond -8.6 pistons and the stock crank.

OK i have The diamond piston ring set,

But i keep on hearing something about a chrome top ring for forced induction, is it better than what comes in the Diamond ring kit?

what brand is it how much , and where can i get them
thanks for the help

 

I'd you either a set of Hell Fire rings or use a stainless steel top ring. Don't use anything but standard tension rings.

Howard

 

Total seal and they are around $400 last time I checked. I don't know what everyone is using, but it is want W2W recomended for me.
Jeff

 

Hi Howard
thanks for the help,
I think the diamond is a stainless ring, but not 100% certain,
What is hell fire rings , who makes them

is anyone using the diamond rings in there forced induction LS1

 

When you order diamond rings, you need to specify "blower." Diamond sells Total Seal Stainless top rings when specified, it costs more then normal.

Course I have a very competitive price on these

However these rings we have noticed have little room for error, when it comes to cylinder wall surface.

 

how do i know what i got? , they are in a diamond package

 

The part number for the ring package will let us know what you got, and you do indeed want the chrome top ring. Bob

 

Hell Fire here

 

HI bob,
OK i will get the part# off the Diamond ring package,
Why so important the Chrome top Ring? with the forced induction

Are all the other rings the same from package to package?
Would you or Diamond exchange them for the right ones?
what would be the Price differance, are these total seal in a Diamond package?

 

OK Bob
There are 3 boxes inside the diamond piston ring box.

The Top ring part # is 06103905 Plasma moly steel

The second ring # 07233905 Plasma moly Ductile

The oil rings # 08323905 Low tension

Is this the right ring set ,
Please let me know

 

+1 for Hell Fire.

 

Can you please tell me who Hell fire is , how much they cost and why they are better than the diamond Pro select rings

 

To be quite honest, I don't even know how much they are. The guys at LME built my short block, and they highly suggested them. These guys know their stuff. I can tell you that while I've been tuning, I have had a couple of "OH MY GOD....WHAT DID MY AFR JUST HIT?!?!" moments. And the rings are holding just fine.

(don't mind me as I knock on wood!)

 

Im not positive but I think speedpro makes Hellfire rings.

 

I searched and the only thing I could find was that HellFire rings were made by Speedpro/Federal Mogul. Couldnt find a place to purchase them though.

 

OK
But what is the top Chrome ring i am hearing about,
sounds like i can just use the diamond Pro-slect rings i have , but use a diferent Top ring.

 

what are the Hell fire rings made of?

My Diamond rings are made of Plasma moly steel and the 2nd ring made out of plasma moly Ductile

 

I'm as lost as you....maybe someone will chime in and help us out. I was plannin on goin with the diamond pro-selects but the HellFire rings may be my substitute.

 

Tal to the ring manufacturers. They were very helpful in explaining all of these questions I had about some of the specific rings etc... The Hell Fire rings will hold up, but I think they wear a little more on the cyclinder wall than some of the other choices from what I remember when I was doing research. And when I say that don't freak out and think that you are only going to get 5000 miles out of the motor it isn't that big of a difference we are talking very small amounts of differences. But if you want to know for yourself give one or a few of the ring manufactures a call and tell them what you want and they will tell you what you should use or give you a few choices depending on your goals and longevity.

 

i use tool steel top ring...