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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 05:33 AM
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Default Winter Mods (cam, meth, heads) HELP NEEDED

Over this winter I am going to be adding some parts to make my A&A Procharged FRC a little faster. Here is what I plan:
G5XB
Patriot Golds
LS6 intake
Ported TB
Alky Control Kit
3.9 Pulley (currently running the 4.1)

Now one question is should I go ahead and put me a set of stock 6 liter heads on it to drop compression a little? What do you all thnk?

NOW, what do you guys think of this cam compared the the LS6 cam I am currently running? HP gain? Too big for my setup?

I'm just trying to get the car into the 10's running on my Nitto DR's.

Come on and let me know guys I am ordering most of it as a Christmas present.

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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 05:42 AM
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I don't much about that cam.

Are you running a built bottom end?

I'm currently planning my FI build, I'm looking at the Stage 3 LQ9 heads from EPP: http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com....html?item=649

And I'm planning a custom cam 230/244 .592/.612 114LSA +4 on XE-R lobes. This will be going into a built 346ci with ~9.5:1 SCR.

EPP has a good build article of a built 346ci Vette running 14psi on a D1 with Stage 2 LQ9's and milder cam, it made 700rwhp on a Mustang dyno
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 03:30 PM
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There has not been a lot of feedback on this cam. I have seen a few people running it with good results though.

The other LG cams are good performers so I would expect nothing less from this one.

The car has a stock bottom end at this time.
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 03:42 PM
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I believe the G5XB is the lg FI cam, not sure on the specs but if it is in the 22X+/22X+ duration you should definately see a noticeable boost in HP. Also I say go for the 6 liter heads as it will drop the compression, allow you to run more boost, and keep temps down. With that cam alone and a little more traction you might be able to see 10's as your MPH is there for a 10 second run.
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 04:42 PM
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Yeah the G5XB is the LG blower grind duration is in the upper 220's with around 580 lift on a 115lsa
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 05:05 PM
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Those items would compliment your car nicely. Post results when done, I'd like to see the gain of the larger cam.
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 07:42 PM
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I think the gain of the G5XB would be a pretty nice gain. Of course I won't be able to tell an exact gain due to all the mods being done at one time.
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 09:34 AM
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Yeah the G5XB is the LG blower grind duration is in the upper 220's with around 580 lift on a 115lsa

Nice yea I usually hang out in the FI section and saw a few posts the the G5XB and it looks like its pretty popular. I would say with that cam alone and a retune you would be very close to hitting high 10's, especially if you can get a little more traction. If you want to make it deep into the 10's def get a set of 6.0 liter heads (patriot performance has some nice ones), install the meth, and go for 10-11 psi and you should have more than enough to power to make it there. Good luck though and post up when you finalize your setup!
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 300bhp/ton
And I'm planning a custom cam 230/244 .592/.612 114LSA +4 on XE-R lobes. This will be going into a built 346ci with ~9.5:1 SCR.
That cam sounds retarded for a forced induction application.
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Originally Posted by pakisho
That cam sounds retarded for a forced induction application.

I wouldnt necessarily say that as Exotic Performance Plus and a few other sponsors have been having success with bigger cams like the grind listed above. Im not sure if his particular grind will work as well as their's have but I have seen some stout turbo setups with some huge cams in them.
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 03:51 PM
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Thanks guys, I have not deided for sure about the heads yet, but most likely will get some. They will just be the stock 6 liter heads though.

I wouldn't go with a cam that size but there was a video of a Firehawk on here with the X3 and a blower and it looked really impressive.
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by pakisho
That cam sounds retarded for a forced induction application.
1. Why?

Is your insulting biased opinion actually based on anything?

2. Read this: https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/619813-can-someone-help-me-design-custom-cam.html
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 07:22 AM
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I think with meth and a little more boost your in the 10's for sure!!! LS6 intake swap is easy enough too. I wouldn't worry about the cam. You'd be there!!!

And add springs.
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 07:24 AM
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I already have 918's in the car now.

I have considered pulley, meth, LS6 intake and a tune. Then putting the other money into half shafts and ET Streets.
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 300bhp/ton
1. Why?

Is your insulting biased opinion actually based on anything?

2. Read this: https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=619813
Yes, its based on my existing forced induction setup.

The cam is retarded because its something that belongs in an all motor car, and will adapt to boost, but barely. Its way to gnarly to let a blower move the air properly through the motor.

Go wtih something like a 224/230 and cut down the lift a little. If you really need the mad crazy shake rattle and roll, do what I did and get a set of electric cutouts. Dont build a silly *** combo based on what you want it to sound like. Build the right combo that works well together, and then figure out how to uncork the sound.

I have a buddy that ran a G5X3 in a blower vette, and it made great power, lots of rattle to it as well. But I dont know what the specs on the X3 are, though I would guess less aggressive than the one you are looking at.
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by pakisho
Yes, its based on my existing forced induction setup.
So nothing more substantial than than a biased non technical opinion

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The cam is retarded because its something that belongs in an all motor car
umm no it's not, if I was sticking FI I'd be looking at a totally different cam more along the lines of 239/242 .649/.610 on a 111LSA

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Go wtih something like a 224/230 and cut down the lift a little.
Why? Explain in detail please why this would be a better cam for HP.

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If you really need the mad crazy shake rattle and roll, do what I did and get a set of electric cutouts.
Why - I already have a loud exhaust, and an exhaust doesn't dictate all the sound or the idle

Originally Posted by pakisho
Dont build a silly *** combo based on what you want it to sound like.
Gonna assume you didn't read that thread then.

I want it to sound good yes, but who would want to spend loads of money and having it soundling like crap. But I'm also after more power for a given boost level. If mild cams are so great WTF do Top Fuelers run agressive cams?

Originally Posted by pakisho
Build the right combo that works well together, and then figure out how to uncork the sound.
Sound is already uncorked!!!
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 12:17 PM
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Okay, dude, never mind, just slap that trex size thing in your stock CID supercharged car. Have fun with it!
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