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Old 01-05-2007, 06:41 AM
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You want your gate's reference to be AFTER the TB blade, especially since you are running off of the springs... I would personally put my meth's reference in the same place, but it's less critical. You DON't want meth spraying through the MAF, put it after.

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Old 01-05-2007, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
crossovers and turbo's themselves are 2 different things bowtieman.next time after you finish doing some pulls pull over and stick your hand next to the turbo and see how hot it is,i dont care if your turbo is coated or has a blanket.Youre going to have not 1 but 2 VERY hot objects practically touching the fans.I wanted to hear what Jammer says since he previously owned the kit.If the fans will last cool,but its gonna be cooking in front there.
I am well aware turbos and crossovers are 2 different things. My point was that a turbo wrap/blanket would give his fans a better chance of living.

Do you have any hot parts on your car wrapped, or are you just speculating things?


Jon, Frost is correct: you definitely want to reference your wastegate off the intake manifold. I made that mistake; I reference mine right off the compressor housing.

Your brake booster line should work fine for a BOV reference.

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Old 01-05-2007, 11:58 AM
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ok, so i want to refrence the 2 WGs, BOV, Meth AND boost guage all off the brake booster? Just asking because the instructions with WGs showed before TB blade. I'll have to spray the meth into into the TB after MAF i guess, thanks! Can someone tell me if i'm right in refrencing everything i have then off the brake booster? I have that eagle mgf vacuum box with 6 ports so its not a problem if thats what i should do. Thanks!
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mine are all referanced after the throttle blade so should work
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i am doing it all of the brake booster with a distribution box thingee like you mention.

works just fine.
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ok thanks, just got home from school and found 2 nice boxes! One containing the oil scavenge pump and the other containing a bunch of heat wrap! EPP got me the heat wrap in one day and the pump came in 2! Going to work on the car a little later tonight, now i just need some fittings for the drain.... Heater hose will work okay?
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git-r-dun jonny! unfortunately i think im heading back to school today so i wont make the dyno day keep me posted!
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Old 01-05-2007, 06:46 PM
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will do! Im going to head over soon and do some more work
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Old 01-06-2007, 05:09 AM
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so what scavange pump did you go with
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i think he said he got one out of an sts kit
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Yea, i called up TRT as i remembered they built that twin turbo road race car with the turbo's really low. The guy told me that they used the STS pump and it worked flawlessly and never missed a lick. He also said the STS pumps are very reliable and has only had 1 fail out of all the systems they have done, and that 1 was due to something actually getting into the pump.
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Are you sure you want to use the MAF? A custom 2 or 3bar SD tune is going to give you much better control over things.
The MAF wont see any more than 512g/sec of air in any case. A limitation of the stock PCM. Not saying it wont work, just that its not optimal.
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well im not running much boost, i've actually heard it will be better to keep the MAF for the low boost as i dont have to worry as much when the temp changes and such... will be going to a 2 bar later though... up-date coming up next....
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ok well today we got quite a bit done... Got the rad and fans BACK out again, haha. Got the crank pully off and timing cover off (ready to drill and tap for drain), i wraped the turbine housings (had to secure with zip ties for now, need to pick up some worm gear clamps tomorrow), check my pics and let me know if its a good job or approx how many layers it should have.... Got the guages all done on interior, bolted most of interior back up. Also got the trans cooler mounted and that hooked up. Got my entire meth kit bolted up and all the wiring for that done and mounted the activation light for it up in the vent on my dash just below the alarm light, pretty cool! All thats left now is to drill timing cover, find fittings and set up the drain, and mount scavenge pump, reinstall rad and fans, wrap the hell out of the lower hose... set up vacuum sources, and hook up the guage readers then its firing time... i think, maybe i'm missing some stuff, probably am.

Want to hear something funny i found while working on the guages? Well i pulled off the top part of center console, and way up by the ash tray area under it, were 2 pieces of paper, one a receipt for super subbies in Ohio, and the second was a timeslip was a track in Cincinatii. I bought this car from the original owner from Ohio.... He told me he was planning to race the car but never did... hmm, maybe words to help sell the car??? I'm thinking so, because i found this timeslip and some weird wires in the spare tire area.... which may explain the results on this timeslip... the times fit well to an f-body and the 60 ft matches the car as its stock stall... one lane was a 1.9 60', 11.2 @ 124.... other lane was a 2.2 60', 11.5 @ 125 . So i'm thinking those wires may have been for a bottle.... hrmmmm. Kind of cool, don;t know what to think though... my drivetrain and motor is strong to hold that, or its worn out from that? Could go either way i guess, thought it was pretty interesting though!

Here are some pics, any questions feel free to ask!

meth tank mounted


meth pump and tank


feed lines finished and installed (ran to oil block)


waterpump off


scavenge pump


trans-cooler mounted (bypasses radiator)


under-shot of trans cooler


pass side air filter mounted


drivers side turbine housing wrapped


pass side turbine housing wrapped


shot of both turbo's wrapped


timing cover off, ready to drill for oil drain


Meth computer installed on fuse box


Guages done on interior


Guages lit up, may camera doesnt like to show the light that much but you can see the red light. Look totally different in person, and MUCH better lighting.


Trans cooler hooked up
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Old 01-07-2007, 01:35 AM
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Looking good, but that heat wrap needs steel tie-wraps..not plastic! Turbo blankets are chaffordable!. Looking good man.
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i would think so, but i put some plastic ties over my wrap and they are still holding with no signs of melting...
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well if you read above in my post i wrote that the zip ties are temporarily holding until i go to the store and buy some worm gear clamps for them
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I'm simply amazed at the project. Just think what you'll be capable of by the time you are old like me. lol.

Looks great. although, i think heat wrap looks like azz. can't really do much about that though. mine is covered in it as well.
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you sure you want to not run trans fluid through the radiator first?
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Old 01-07-2007, 09:14 AM
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yea, heat wrap isnt so pretty, haha. but better than dropping $300 on blankets that could be spent better someplace else. As for running threw the Rad, we decided that with all the crap underhood, it would probably be best to by-pass it.

As for the project, I have to thank Frank a ton for helping me out. I am learning a ton from doing this project and without Frank i'd probably still be disassembling the car, haha.
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