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Old 01-14-2007, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by venom ws7
why dont you try spec 5 or mccloed twin disc?
I thought the OZ700 was the best out there. I had SPEC 3 and Mcloed before and they slipped way before the OZ700.
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Originally Posted by LSs1Power
I thought the OZ700 was the best out there. I had SPEC 3 and Mcloed before and they slipped way before the OZ700.
Get with Textralia on the problem...they have great customer support. I was using their twin disc but since went to the Triple. So far so good after some machining issues we had to address...and yes I believe your correct. They are RC 72 but flow 750cc's at 43.5lbs of FP. Not sure why your seeing such high DC with these...? Have you tried a volt booster or similar product to help? I'm using the Casper Electronics V-Plus volt booster. I'm at 18psi with zero problems with the injectors keeping up...

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Originally Posted by DJ's99SS
Get with Textralia on the problem...they have great customer support. I was using their twin disc but since went to the Triple. So far so good after some machining issues we had to address...and yes I believe your correct. They are RC 72 but flow 750cc's at 43.5lbs of FP. Not sure why your seeing such high DC with these...? Have you tried a volt booster or similar product to help? I'm using the Casper Electronics V-Plus volt booster. I'm at 18psi with zero problems with the injectors keeping up...

I will call them tomorrow to see what they can do. Its a new clutch and it sucks that i have to buy another one soo soon.

Whats your injectors DC? KP just ran his 72lbs to 95% too so I just dont see them keeping up with this Combo.
Yes im running a hot wire to the pumps... I was running the 72lbs at 70-80psi of FP and it showed 95% DC around 5K RPM. The thing is... we are running 14 degrees of timing and 11.0 AF and the car seem to want more timing. If we put race fuel and 4 degrees of timing running around 12.0 or so... its game over for these injectors below 5k RPM. There is low to mid 800rwhp and low to mid 700rwtq in this setup on a mustang dyno, but we dont have the fuel or clutch to support it I guess.

Oh well back to the drawing board.
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I have put down 650 and 750rwt with no issues but did have one problem seems to be comon problem with eagle stroker cranks seems the gun drilled cranks leak around rear oil plug in crank. I thought my clutch was slipping also. Until I talked to one of my friends that had a 402 also and said the oil plug leaks. He said he has another buddy with same problem. So I pulled the trans and found it was leaking. I cleaned up everything put silicone around the plug and let it dry no problems so far.
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Originally Posted by 02SSLE
I have put down 650 and 750rwt with no issues but did have one problem seems to be comon problem with eagle stroker cranks seems the gun drilled cranks leak around rear oil plug in crank. I thought my clutch was slipping also. Until I talked to one of my friends that had a 402 also and said the oil plug leaks. He said he has another buddy with same problem. So I pulled the trans and found it was leaking. I cleaned up everything put silicone around the plug and let it dry no problems so far.

Interesting.... Im going to pull the tranny out today and check that out.
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let me know if it is the same problem.
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Do you have a close up pic of the tag? Is it stamped with 5:4 step raito? just wondering.
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Originally Posted by P.F.M
Do you have a close up pic of the tag? Is it stamped with 5:4 step raito? just wondering.
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If I remember correctly it has 74K max impeller speed and F1-C on it. It is a 5.4 step up ratio though.
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Here are the pics form the clutch, no leak on the rear main seal dry as a bone. Only thing we noticed is the hot spots in the middle of everything. Had aproblem with an old disc that was riveted on wrong and we replaced it with a new disc, wondering if we should resurface the flywheel and try it again
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Originally Posted by LSs1Power
The car is going to be shipped overseas tomorrow or tuesday. That is why its going to be a while until another update. It looks like I have to see whats the problem with the clutch and choose either going the Big Stuff route or a convertor box for the low impedence injectors.
Where are you headed? Bob
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Originally Posted by Exotic Performance Plus
Where are you headed? Bob

Most likely UAE. I have few job offers from there.
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Originally Posted by GrannySShifting
Here are the pics form the clutch, no leak on the rear main seal dry as a bone. Only thing we noticed is the hot spots in the middle of everything. Had aproblem with an old disc that was riveted on wrong and we replaced it with a new disc, wondering if we should resurface the flywheel and try it again
I would call Textralia and make sure your not having issues with pre-load on the PP. Thats the problem I was having and had to machine down the slave. The tolerances of the tranny, bellhousing, crankshaft, etc may be different on each set up. Pete can walk you through these problems if there are any just to make sure...
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Originally Posted by LSs1Power
The car is going to be shipped overseas tomorrow or tuesday. That is why its going to be a while until another update. It looks like I have to see whats the problem with the clutch and choose either going the Big Stuff route or a convertor box for the low impedence injectors.
i ve heard from couple of friends here ( KSA Jeddah) that you are coming but i may be wrong

anyway good luck with car it will be a beaSSt
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double post sorry
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Originally Posted by LSs1Power
Most likely UAE. I have few job offers from there.
You might be able to help some of the guys over there with their cars. There is a lot of interest in forced induction over there. I just shipped an ATI ProCharger for an LS1 F Body to Kuwait last week. Bob
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Originally Posted by DJ's99SS
I would call Textralia and make sure your not having issues with pre-load on the PP. Thats the problem I was having and had to machine down the slave. The tolerances of the tranny, bellhousing, crankshaft, etc may be different on each set up. Pete can walk you through these problems if there are any just to make sure...

Textraila service is top notch. They are sending us a whole new clutch kit. We have another new Textraila on the car now and i was driving it all day long to break it in.

Now the car is going on the dyno as I type this now..... oh yes its 11:24pm now lol.. PRAY with me that the clutch will hold.

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Originally Posted by venom ws7
i ve heard from couple of friends here ( KSA Jeddah) that you are coming but i may be wrong

anyway good luck with car it will be a beaSSt
Yes its going to Jeddah first.
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Originally Posted by Exotic Performance Plus
You might be able to help some of the guys over there with their cars. There is a lot of interest in forced induction over there. I just shipped an ATI ProCharger for an LS1 F Body to Kuwait last week. Bob
There are some good shops in UAE and Jeddah. Hopefully we get the car dialed in now so I just need 96lbs injectors with a Box later on.
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The new OZ700 was great.... Too great that we found the limit of a stock T56 tonight... 700rwtq at 4400rpm would do it. We only saw 11psi or so at 5500RPM. The car was making 650rwhp at 5500RPM when the tranny let go. That was the 3rd run from 2500-5500RPM running a low 14 degrees of timing.

I guess we are done for now until i drop a TH400 in it and call it a day. I will also have to get 96lbs injectors with either a box or BS3 because the 72lbs were running around 90% at 5500RPM or so. I will most likely need another bosch pump due to slight drop in fuel pressure.
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heh, you will find alot more weak parts along the way

I have ran both the 72lb RC and 60lb motorons and the hi impedence 72s dont really flow a whole bunch more up top then the 60s. These 75lb delphi low impedence injectors are around 20% less duty cycle then the RC 72s, same fuel system. Maybe it was just me but I didnt have a lot of luck with the converter boxes.


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