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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Redline-Motorsports
I wonder if the stock 6.0L manifolds make it harder to get by the passenger side.
No problem at all.I don't know what clearance there is with a SPOHN but it clear no problem with a PA and BMR subframe. I'm planning a 5" on my car with a PA/solid motor mount setup.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 10:22 AM
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i have a bmr kmember with the poly mounts and 4" downpipe all the way to the back, took a little clearancing due to the vband flanges, she is tight but fits good
https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction/508764-truck-manifold-turbo-set-up-faq-s.html
had to grind the AC mounts down and a couple of places on the kmember.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 02:28 PM
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Those pictures helped alot. Thanks!

I am starting to 2nd guess my turbo placement........originally I wanted it in the battery location. Starting to wonder if a center or lower mounting might be better....

Any pros and cons either way?
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 03:05 PM
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well for a lower mount you probably want it high enough so the oil can drain back by gravity. i think were i have mine is at the limit (but not so close it doesnt drain as my drains just fine, i wouldnt go lower though)
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 04:33 PM
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Howard... you can gain alot of space if your willing to the the Rad support. Mines here is you ever want to come over and see how it was done.... It is a little harder with truck manifolds to get the bigger pipes back...I was able to slide 3" easily..and a manul rack will buy some precious 1/4"s. in some cases (at least on driver side.
Looking forward to seeing the white machine. I used oval and went under.... I wouldnt do it that way again though.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 07:28 PM
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did you get my pics?
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 07:36 PM
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youd see a big difference if you shim the motor higher. its definately possible to run a 3.5 inch pipe over the k member.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 07:42 PM
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I ran 4 with not much issue. bigger is always better
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I'm not understanding how so many folks are running a 4". I have a UMI k member and truck manifolds and my mechanic said he was playing with a piece of 3.5" pipe today and said that it looked POSSIBLE, but would be difficult. He seemed to think there was NO WAY he could fit a 4" DP.

Maybe it is the UMI k member??? If it can be done...he will figure it out. He is a master welder and very skilled at building mandrel systems.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 08:50 PM
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you have to move alt to top
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 09:18 PM
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Here are two pictures that show the relationship of the 4" pipe and the SPOHN K-member. I need to install the steering rack and see what kind of issue that creates. I plan on going to a manual rack anyway but it looks like I might be indenting the pipe where the rack crosses underneath it. If that's the case I think I'm home free. Please note that the pipe is just laying on the cross member and still has another 1" to move up.

Another idea that crossed my mind was; once the exhaust leaves the compressor housing as 4", why can't I split it back to two 2-2.5" pipes and runs duals back out under the motor mounts???






The radiator support is coming out already but that is not the clearance I am looking for.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 09:22 PM
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Its close but it will work. Just be sure to support the rest of the exhaust piping via some quality exhaust hangers and you should be in the clear.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 10:34 PM
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I am doing a truck manifold build and have a 4" downpipe on pass side of car it is possible but it is very tight OH I also have tubular K-member which helps alot for clearance issues
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Redline-Motorsports
Here are two pictures that show the relationship of the 4" pipe and the SPOHN K-member. I need to install the steering rack and see what kind of issue that creates. I plan on going to a manual rack anyway but it looks like I might be indenting the pipe where the rack crosses underneath it. If that's the case I think I'm home free. Please note that the pipe is just laying on the cross member and still has another 1" to move up.

Another idea that crossed my mind was; once the exhaust leaves the compressor housing as 4", why can't I split it back to two 2-2.5" pipes and runs duals back out under the motor mounts???






The radiator support is coming out already but that is not the clearance I am looking for.
put the downpipe on the otherside (passenger side were the ac used to go.), the steering rack will interfere with it on the driverside.
also it makes it easier and yields better clearance as you dont have to go under the tranny to route the exhaust to the back.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 09:38 AM
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Mine is 4" pipe, PA Kmember, and the motor is not lowered. I think Speed Inc. customized a motor mount on one side.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 01:57 PM
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Those motor mounts are screwing ya.The base needs to be higher up.Also we always run it down the pass side.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 11:24 PM
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I made the solution. I am ditching the stock mount on the passenger side and replacing it with a custom fabbed one. I am going to use a .250" plate on the engine and the same on the K-member. I bent a piece of moly roll cage tubing left over from the cage to make a curved mount. The 4" is going to fit like a champ!

Now I just need to decide if I am going to mount the turbo in the center or off by the battery......

Those of you that have center mount turbos......how are you supporting the dead weight?

here is a shot of the new mount idea;

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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 01:02 AM
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Well, thats a definate solution!
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 07:33 AM
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just make sure you install your steering rack before all that to make sure it wont interfere.
then you still have the problem of crossing over the tranny (clearance problems) to get to the back
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by smokinHawk
just make sure you install your steering rack before all that to make sure it wont interfere.
then you still have the problem of crossing over the tranny (clearance problems) to get to the back
Rack is in on the shot, just can't see it! This detail works great and looks clean.

Getting 4" off the exhaust housing and at least 4' back is a big plus vs. 3" all the way back. If I need to do some reducing near the tranny I might not sweat it. Don't really plan on getting over the axle either..
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