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Old 01-18-2007, 09:29 AM
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HI
I recieved the Colbolt map sensor part # ( 12580698)
today. I want to uses this 2-bar map sensor to be able to tune my car SD. It looks very small, not that that matters, but the nipple that conetcs to either a vac-boost line or to push into a LS1 intake looks small,
How do i install this sensor?
Do i pull out my stock one out and install this one into the same port on the back of my intake, where my stock sensor is?
I hope i ordered the right sensor.
Please let me know
thank you
Walter

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Yes that is the correct PN same one I am using for my 2 bar set up and all you do is remove your old one and you'll have to trim a bit off the new one as it is too wide be carful and grind a bit of the left side of it off so it will fit in the stock location once done it will snuggly fit in stock location HTH
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Hi Bandit
What am i trimming ?, the colbolt sensor i am looking at has like molded plastic clips on each side of it , they look like for mounting it , is this what i trim off?
Please let me know
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do you have pictures
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thank you JMBlown

OK now how hard is it to remove the old sensor? I heard its a bitch to pull out.
Is there any thing else to know ?
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make sure you are careful with the rubber plug thats on the nipple of the old sensor. I think you have to reuse it for the new one.
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Originally Posted by Lawnboy
thank you JMBlown

OK now how hard is it to remove the old sensor? I heard its a bitch to pull out.
Is there any thing else to know ?
Get a no scratching cover on the front of the nose of your car. Then reach back and unplug it. Then push the retainer back a little bit and get her out and slap the 2 bar in. If I can change a oil sender without takin off the intake you can do it
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Originally Posted by Country Boy
make sure you are careful with the rubber plug thats on the nipple of the old sensor. I think you have to reuse it for the new one.
I was lucky and mine came with one.
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what is the retainer ? is it a lock of some sort?
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Its the molded part on the intake that holds the map sensor down.

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OK
Its in.
not too bad to do , tore up my arm a little,

But now that its in , and reading my interceptor scan gauge, i dont see boost being read, but my autometer vac/boost gauge it reading 0-10 PSI.

I guess it wont read boost until i have the car tuned S/D?

does anyone know?
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you need to recal the pcm for the new sensor
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I'd pick up a new silicone grommet for the sensor if yours did not come with one. I purchased mine for about $5.00 and when I took the old map sensor out I was not able to reuse the old one. Also the Wires to the map sensor are pretty tight from the factory, the new sensor is about 1/4 -3/8" shorter, putting that much more stree on the wires. You can free them up a little just follow them back and get any gains in lenght where ever possible
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OK 2002WS-6

Where can i get a new silicone grommet for the sensor, no mine did not come with one i had to reuse my old one and i think its a little lose now.

I cant believe they did not supply the new map sensor with a new silicone grommet,
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heres the grommet number 16194007
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So is everyone using this sensor absolutely sure it is a 2 bar (not a 2.5 bar)?

I'm about to purchase it and just want verification...
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Originally Posted by ChevyChad
So is everyone using this sensor absolutely sure it is a 2 bar (not a 2.5 bar)?

I'm about to purchase it and just want verification...

Absolutely sure it is a 2.0....I saw the Delphi engineering drawing.
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Are you talking about this one:

http://www.powerandsignal.com/docs/P...s/09350899.pdf

(Got that from this thread )

If so, how can you be sure that that is the correct part reference? Where can you verify that Delphi 09350899 is GM 12580698?

I went ahead and ordered it, but if there is nothing that references those 2 part #'s then I will do a bench test to verify myself I guess...
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Same kPa spec but I don't remember if it is the same part number. A Delphi engineer sent it to me in an email with a cross reference to the Cobalt sensor.....which is a BAP sensor not a MAP sensor BTW.....that's what causes all of the confusion since the Cobalt uses a 2.5 bar Map sensor and a 2.0 bar bap sensor. Can't use a Cobalt 2.5 map sensor since it has other integrated funtions.


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