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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
The unit you have appears to be a T76 compressor wheel. However the unit FrcdFed98 has according to the information he supplied is not. Do you have the label/box that unit came in?
Hmm I'll check and see if I still have the boxes laying around. That looks like the #'s though you posted. I remember it saying 60SE...etc..etc, so I called to confirm. Also forced, why don't you call Jose. If for some reason its not the right turbo, I have no doubt he would get you the right one.
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Hmm I'll check and see if I still have the boxes laying around. That looks like the #'s though you posted. I remember it saying 60SE...etc..etc, so I called to confirm. Also forced, why don't you call Jose. If for some reason its not the right turbo, I have no doubt he would get you the right one.
If that unit is going out with a T76 compressor while labeled as a 62-1 and the serial number shows a 62-1 left on the build list something is very wrong. Do you have the serial number on that unit you measured? I'd like to check it in the system too. It should be on the compressor backplate.
Old Jan 30, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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hey guys, im going to the garage right now to take the turbo apart and measure it. then ill post all of the serial numbers. be back in ten
Old Jan 30, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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why not just throw the thing on the car and get some numbers? i dont see any reason why our sponsors would lie about the specs of the turbo..

i am subscribing to this thread cause i am researching to see if this t-76 would be a better street/ wknd track turbo than lets say a S-80 or S-85.
Old Jan 30, 2007 | 07:57 PM
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Oh I am definatley gonna push this turbo to the edge and back. Leaving for the shop in a few.
Old Jan 30, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Me SOM
why not just throw the thing on the car and get some numbers? i dont see any reason why our sponsors would lie about the specs of the turbo..

i am subscribing to this thread cause i am researching to see if this t-76 would be a better street/ wknd track turbo than lets say a S-80 or S-85.
All this confirming is for a reason. Forcedfeds label shows a 60 series or 62-1 wheel and Dr Turbo says its the right label so we are all wonderin why the hell is a 76mm wheel doin in a 62mm box? Or are we all readin the 60 series label the wrong way?
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 2002/Black/SS
hey guys, im going to the garage right now to take the turbo apart and measure it. then ill post all of the serial numbers. be back in ten
Hey its been 25 minutes!! J/K
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i just checked it. it measured 74.9MM on the top of the compressor wheel and 104mm on the bottom of the compressor wheel. i guess that means its a 76mm?

also here are the serial numbers, but they had an X through them. maybe so people at the shiping place wouldnt realize theres an expensive turbo in it????

60SE-SB-H76-D-D-SS
60SE-SB-H76-D-D-SS tundo_46

C/O- 45399
S/N- T-23626
M/O- M280150


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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
For what it's worth here is what frcdfed98 posted on the Turbonetics forum as far as information about the unit he recieved:
60SE - SB - 621 - D - D - SS - TUNDO_96

C/O # 42697

S/N # T-22555

M/O # M258900
forcefed's serial numbers

my serial number:
60SE-SB-H76-D-D-SS - tundo_96
C/O-45399
S/N-T-23626
M/O- M28150

uuuuummmm i think u cant pass 9psi cause u have the wrong turbo!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by 2002/Black/SS
i just checked it. it measured 74.9MM on the top of the compressor wheel and 104mm on the bottom of the compressor wheel. i guess that means its a 76mm?

also here are the serial numbers, but they had an X through them. maybe so people at the shiping place wouldnt realize theres an expensive turbo in it????

60SE-SB-H76-D-D-SS
60SE-SB-H76-D-D-SS tundo_46

C/O- 45399
S/N- T-23626
M/O- M280150


See that's entirely different part number wise. The H76 indicates its an HP76 compressor wheel (T76) Frcd label does not read that. His reads 60SE-SB-621 which indicates a 62-1 compressor wheel. And that right there is where the confusion is. The bottom line is I am not trying to call into question anyone's integrity here. I don't have his turbo in front of me and the only data I have to go off of is his label and the serial number he provided. Its clear from his part number that his turbo should have a 62-1 compressor wheel on it. This is backed up by the serial number build list in the Turbonetics production system stating it has a 62-1 compressor wheel. If he does in fact have a T76 wheel and the box is mislabeled and the serial system is wrong then my apologies. I am man enough to admit when I am wrong but as it stands right now Frcd part number label and serial number indicate he has a 62-1 compressor wheel on his unit. Unless he measures his unit and tells me its a T76 I have no reason to believe it is.
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
See that's entirely different part number wise. The H76 indicates its an HP76 compressor wheel (T76) Frcd label does not read that. His reads 60SE-SB-621 which indicates a 62-1 compressor wheel. And that right there is where the confusion is. The bottom line is I am not trying to call into question anyone's integrity here. I don't have his turbo in front of me and the only data I have to go off of is his label and the serial number he provided. Its clear from his part number that his turbo should have a 62-1 compressor wheel on it. This is backed up by the serial number build list in the Turbonetics production system stating it has a 62-1 compressor wheel. If he does in fact have a T76 wheel and the box is mislabeled and the serial system is wrong then my apologies. I am man enough to admit when I am wrong but as it stands right now Frcd part number label and serial number indicate he has a 62-1 compressor wheel on his unit. Unless he measures his unit and tells me its a T76 I have no reason to believe it is.
so i should bolt my turbo up and not worry about it??? from ur reasearch the 76 wheel supports well over 650? like the 750-800 range?

did u find out what the 76mm flows lb/min wise?
Old Jan 30, 2007 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 2002/Black/SS
forcefed's serial numbers

my serial number:
60SE-SB-H76-D-D-SS - tundo_96
C/O-45399
S/N-T-23626
M/O- M28150

uuuuummmm i think u cant pass 9psi cause u have the wrong turbo!!!!!!!!!!!!
Precisely my point. In the end a Turbonetics Owner asked what his exact specs were on the Turbonetics Forum. I had service look up the serial number and out shot the specs I gave him. But the part number he posted that you quoted above is a clear indication that the unit has or at least had a 62-1 compressor wheel. Your part number break down would be:

60SE-SB-H76-D-D-SS - tundo_96
60 series - Standard Bearing - HP76 compressor (T76) - Dry Bearing - Dynamic Seal - S trim T4 turbine (supercedes Q trim) - Tangential Undivided .96 A/R turbine housing

FrcFed's Part number again:
60SE - SB - 621 - D - D - SS - TUNDO_96
60 series - Standard Bearing - 62-1 compressor wheel - Dry Bearing - Dynamic Seal - S trim T4 turbine - Tangential Undivided .96 A/R turbine housing

You can see the difference and why I gave him that info..
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Originally Posted by 2002/Black/SS
so i should bolt my turbo up and not worry about it??? from ur reasearch the 76 wheel supports well over 650? like the 750-800 range?

did u find out what the 76mm flows lb/min wise?
Oh yes. The T76 is good for a LOT of power. The HP76 wheel is good for 900 HP at peak efficient flow. This turbo should get you into the 700s with ease and then some. As a reference I'm attaching the turbo matrix for the T-series units.
Edit I should say peak efficient flow on the HP76 compressor wheel chart is 90 lb/min
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 08:29 PM
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Then how in the hell did frcdfed end up with a 62-1 wheel when he ordered a TC76MPS explain that one?
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
Precisely my point. In the end a Turbonetics Owner asked what his exact specs were on the Turbonetics Forum. I had service look up the serial number and out shot the specs I gave him. But the part number he posted that you quoted above is a clear indication that the unit has or at least had a 62-1 compressor wheel. Your part number break down would be:

60SE-SB-H76-D-D-SS - tundo_96
60 series - Standard Bearing - HP76 compressor (T76) - Dry Bearing - Dynamic Seal - S trim T4 turbine (supercedes Q trim) - Tangential Undivided .96 A/R turbine housing

FrcFed's Part number again:
60SE - SB - 621 - D - D - SS - TUNDO_96
60 series - Standard Bearing - 62-1 compressor wheel - Dry Bearing - Dynamic Seal - S trim T4 turbine - Tangential Undivided .96 A/R turbine housing

You can see the difference and why I gave him that info..

You are the one who actually spoke with him on the phone over @ turbonetics?
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Then how in the hell did frcdfed end up with a 62-1 wheel when he ordered a TC76MPS explain that one?
That is something I cannot explain at this point. According to the build sheet at Turbonetics that is what was ordered and shipped. Its clearly a different part number than what 2002/Black/SS got. The Sales Manager would have to pull the invoice and determine what was ordered. I can tell you this much, the Sales/Support Manager has been made aware of this and is looking into it right now. In fact someone called Customer Support earlier with the exact same question about this exact same unit. They are checking into it now but that is all I know. I'm just trying to help out FrceFed98 in the end as he asked me for help.
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You are the one who actually spoke with him on the phone over @ turbonetics?
No I do not work at the office and don't get calls. There is a Sales/Support staff there. I believe he spoke with Ed at Turbonetics about this. I asked Ed after he called to reconfirm everything I was seeing in the part number with the units serial number. Ed triple checked it was what Turbonetics had in their system. As I said in my last post the Manager is looking into it right now. All I know so far is that this is the unit that was ordered and it was built to that spec and shipped as requested.
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My turbo is not in my hands its at the shop being installed on my new setup, but my engine/turbo builder is lookin into my part number on my turbonetics box and opening the compressor cover to spec the wheel. I ordered the same way as frcdfed over the phone with Jz@forced inductions. We both were clear we wanted a TC-76MPS. Maybe Jz ordered fordedfeds wrong? I sure hope mine is a 76. How can we tell if we really have the MPS wheel by looking at the part number? Is there a way? 2002blkss should have an MPS wheel.



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