3" pipe into T4 flange tricks
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3" pipe into T4 flange tricks Whats the best way to "square" a 3" round tube to fit to a T4 flange? I was thinking heat. Is there anther way? 
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Ron, If your using mild steel it will form without heating. Start with pressing the pipe oval with a press or vise then use a blunt punch or drift punch to form it around. If your working with stainless you will need heat and as stainless heats and cools the harder it is to work with. I'll start at one end and tack weld to the flange as I form it to fit. Good Luck
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Yep, done it twice so far. Use a flat work-bench and the flat end of a ball-peen hammer. You can easily work it into a rectangle. If the corners aren't sharp enough, tap them from the inside with the round end of the hammer.
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Yes, Im working with mild steel. I practiced on a piece of 3" strait. It took me about 10 min. It fit perfect. Now the problem..... My 3" pipes 90* into the turbos. The 90*s donsnt come it at the perfect angle. (see pics) Any other ways to make these fit??
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I see SPD has some transitions for a T4 flange to 3" round. Does anyone else make these. I tryed to order from them, but they want me to download their cataloge and give them PN's. I dont live in town and my dail-up sucks and wont let me download in PDF without freezing up.
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Verdad Gallardo If your that worried about it, just buy a T4 flange that has a 3" circular hole instead of a rectangular hole like this one:
http://bgturbokits.com/store/index.p...roducts_id=102
http://bgturbokits.com/store/index.p...roducts_id=102
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Originally Posted by RealQuick
If your that worried about it, just buy a T4 flange that has a 3" circular hole instead of a rectangular hole like this one:
That doesn't make for a very good transition into the rectangle turbine inlet though.
Originally Posted by engineermike
That doesn't make for a very good transition into the rectangle turbine inlet though.
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Originally Posted by RealQuick
Plenty of single turbo mustang guys have made 700+ with it. i posed that question awhile ago about the openings. look at mightymouse on here. His TTi racekit used a round opening...
Originally Posted by engineermike
Yea, well, there's no arguing that a round piping butting up to a rectangle opening isn't optimal.
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Originally Posted by RealQuick
If your that worried about it, just buy a T4 flange that has a 3" circular hole instead of a rectangular hole like this one:
http://bgturbokits.com/store/index.p...roducts_id=102
http://bgturbokits.com/store/index.p...roducts_id=102
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I was taught a simple method of forming a 3" round tube into a square/rectangular opening.
First use a vice or press to compress the pipe to roughly the width of one side, preferable the long side, of the rectangle. Center the pipe over the opening and tig along the flattened sections on both long sides. Don't weld into the corneres. So now you have an oval with the two long sides welded to the flange.
Back to the vice or press and compress/crush the unwelded oval ends down to meet the short side of the rectangular opening. Weld the centers of the short side, dont' weld the corners.
Now if you're happy with how the corners line up with the flange weld it up, but usually the corners of the now rectangular pipe will need to be flared out to match the rectangular opening in the flange.
Use a ball hammer to flare/shape the tubing from the inside of the flange so that it matches up with the opening. A t-dolly works great for this, but if you don't have one of those you can clamp a piece of ~1/2" round stock in a vice an use that to hammer against so that the tubing flares out in a nice radius.
When you're done welding and forming, use a die grinder to clean up the transition and any weld slag and thats it!
I'll post pics of the one I made a few days ago for my car, when everything else is finished.
Good luck,
First use a vice or press to compress the pipe to roughly the width of one side, preferable the long side, of the rectangle. Center the pipe over the opening and tig along the flattened sections on both long sides. Don't weld into the corneres. So now you have an oval with the two long sides welded to the flange.
Back to the vice or press and compress/crush the unwelded oval ends down to meet the short side of the rectangular opening. Weld the centers of the short side, dont' weld the corners.
Now if you're happy with how the corners line up with the flange weld it up, but usually the corners of the now rectangular pipe will need to be flared out to match the rectangular opening in the flange.
Use a ball hammer to flare/shape the tubing from the inside of the flange so that it matches up with the opening. A t-dolly works great for this, but if you don't have one of those you can clamp a piece of ~1/2" round stock in a vice an use that to hammer against so that the tubing flares out in a nice radius.
When you're done welding and forming, use a die grinder to clean up the transition and any weld slag and thats it!
I'll post pics of the one I made a few days ago for my car, when everything else is finished.
Good luck,
Originally Posted by TT402LS1
There wasnt a pic of it. Anyone have a pic? Its 1/2" flange. Does it tapper from round to rectangle, or is it just a round hole into the turbo?
Thanks - Ron
Thanks - Ron
Originally Posted by TT402LS1
There wasnt a pic of it. Anyone have a pic? Its 1/2" flange. Does it tapper from round to rectangle, or is it just a round hole into the turbo?
Thanks - Ron
Thanks - Ron
Originally Posted by iGoRa
^^^ you dont want this shiotty flange unless your T4 turbine inlet is round.
