700whp - Which clutch?
06-06-2007, 01:20 PM
#21
Originally Posted by Dwn Cam
Mcleod Street Twin!!! Just ask Underground Racing.They have a ST with Miba Discs in their 7 second Viper that drives to the track runs 7's and drives home.
I'd vote for the same clutch setup that is in this car... if you can afford it. My Th400 cost as much as a good clutch setup.
06-06-2007, 02:28 PM
#22
After a lot of reading I got the tex twin and have a 120 or so miles on it and its getting easier to drive on the street. It was not so great for first 20 miles or so.
Pedal pressure is pretty light really and only complaint is that it makes a rattling noise when you push in the clutch. Most twins do that but their are bunch of new generation that don't. Ram has street twin, it requires think adjustable master. Mcleod also think uses their adjustable master. Some have had bad luck with the mcleod masters. Tex don't use adjustable master and their 0z 700 is rated 700ft pounds. Fidanza has also just just come out with street twins for our car. They advertise light pressure, no push in floater rattling, and great grip and think are offered in 650 ft pound and 825 ft pound version. So they could be another option.
I may consider optional discs that Peter at textralia mentioned I could get for my tex twin. I have the metallic dics and they do have an organic/kevlar or something too but didn't now it was an option when bought my clutch. Maybe tex can come out with an upgrade no rattle floater thing. But with stereo on and exhaust and heater fan you can't really notice it too much and it does it only when pushed in. Still quiet is better.
So there are three twins that are street twins..mcleod, ram and fidanza. And clutchmasters might also have fx600 street twin for our cars they are making them for imports.
Be warned the twin discs are not cheap but most include flywheel for the price.
Pedal pressure is pretty light really and only complaint is that it makes a rattling noise when you push in the clutch. Most twins do that but their are bunch of new generation that don't. Ram has street twin, it requires think adjustable master. Mcleod also think uses their adjustable master. Some have had bad luck with the mcleod masters. Tex don't use adjustable master and their 0z 700 is rated 700ft pounds. Fidanza has also just just come out with street twins for our car. They advertise light pressure, no push in floater rattling, and great grip and think are offered in 650 ft pound and 825 ft pound version. So they could be another option.
I may consider optional discs that Peter at textralia mentioned I could get for my tex twin. I have the metallic dics and they do have an organic/kevlar or something too but didn't now it was an option when bought my clutch. Maybe tex can come out with an upgrade no rattle floater thing. But with stereo on and exhaust and heater fan you can't really notice it too much and it does it only when pushed in. Still quiet is better.
So there are three twins that are street twins..mcleod, ram and fidanza. And clutchmasters might also have fx600 street twin for our cars they are making them for imports.
Be warned the twin discs are not cheap but most include flywheel for the price.
06-06-2007, 04:14 PM
#27
Originally Posted by Zombie
I'd vote for the same clutch setup that is in this car... if you can afford it. My Th400 cost as much as a good clutch setup.
06-06-2007, 05:23 PM
#29
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Originally Posted by VINCE
I am running a Tex OZ700 right now w/out issue. This is my second combo with the same clutch. Going on over a year now.. If I decide to turn up the wick I will upgrade to a twin disc Tex clutch.
Its a superb clutch, and holds a lot more than its rating suggests. If its a daily driver, then its hard to beat.
I dont care what anyone says, the smaller diameter multiplates are not as nice to drive ( unless they used organic linings, then they could be )
Im on a triple now, and I can live with it. But mine isnt a DD...just a toy, although I did something like 6500 miles last year. So probably had around 8,000 on my OZ700..
Only replaced it because I was upgrading my T56 too....it certainly didnt need replaced !!
06-06-2007, 05:40 PM
#30
Wow triple eh? My twin seems to be breakin in pretty quickly. I can take it thru traffic pretty easily but really heavy heavy traffic is bit of a pain. But only have 120miles on mine. So heard the triple doesn't make any noise like the twin when pressed in??True or false.? Also tex does have more street friendly discs as options now. Peter mentioned them to me. Tex just needs to modify their floater design like fidanza and ram and few other companies so it don't do the rattle thing when pushed in. Still willing to put up with a bit to have a clutch that can hold over 1000 ft pounds.
06-06-2007, 06:02 PM
#33
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Originally Posted by MY99TAWS6
Wow triple eh? My twin seems to be breakin in pretty quickly. I can take it thru traffic pretty easily but really heavy heavy traffic is bit of a pain. But only have 120miles on mine. So heard the triple doesn't make any noise like the twin when pressed in??True or false.? Also tex does have more street friendly discs as options now. Peter mentioned them to me. Tex just needs to modify their floater design like fidanza and ram and few other companies so it don't do the rattle thing when pushed in. Still willing to put up with a bit to have a clutch that can hold over 1000 ft pounds.
how often are you sitting with your foot on the clutch ? if its enough to annoy you, then IMO you are driving it wrong.
And I was actually surprised mine doesnt rattle noticeably.
I only opted for the triple, as the more friction area should provide smoother engagement.
Its not quite a plug n play install though. With hindsight......I prob should have just went for the twin...or even just stuck with the OZ700..
ya just get these ideas into your head, you need more, when you know in reality you dont.
That said, its in and driving fine. I think it would crack me up in heavy stop-go traffic, but I havent come across that scenario just yet.
06-06-2007, 06:47 PM
#34
The rattling is not that bad most of the time. And I do let the clutch out when stopped at lights and and stuff. But the newest twin designs are saying that they have the rattle thing fixed so can't see why tex couldn't redesign a bit and maybe do that to theirs if it isn't some big patent problem.
Just said why have to deal with the noise if it can be designed out. So far I think my twin is pretty streetable and should get more so as the miles go by and try a few hard launches after 500miles or so. what break in did you do on the triple. How is hte pedal pressure? the twin is not that heavy at all.
Just said why have to deal with the noise if it can be designed out. So far I think my twin is pretty streetable and should get more so as the miles go by and try a few hard launches after 500miles or so. what break in did you do on the triple. How is hte pedal pressure? the twin is not that heavy at all.
06-06-2007, 06:54 PM
#35
9 Second Club
pedal pressure will be exactly the same as the twin, it uses the same cover.
I cant relate to yours as my car will use a different master cylinder. ( I changed to a larger bore size due to other problems.....was un-necessary in the end though )
But it is heavier than the OZ700, thats for sure.
No break in....I was racing, albeit at a crap track with less than 300 miles on it, and driving it hard within 100 miles on the road.
I was having issues at the time, and clutch/tranny was apart a few times with very few miles on them. Id say my clutch was fully bedded in with very very few miles on it.
I would think fitment of a few springs on the posts could help reduce the rattle. But as I said, my floaters are a pretty neat fit, and I dont hear any rattling. That said, engine/exhaust/blower isnt exactly quiet either.
I cant relate to yours as my car will use a different master cylinder. ( I changed to a larger bore size due to other problems.....was un-necessary in the end though )
But it is heavier than the OZ700, thats for sure.
No break in....I was racing, albeit at a crap track with less than 300 miles on it, and driving it hard within 100 miles on the road.
I was having issues at the time, and clutch/tranny was apart a few times with very few miles on them. Id say my clutch was fully bedded in with very very few miles on it.
I would think fitment of a few springs on the posts could help reduce the rattle. But as I said, my floaters are a pretty neat fit, and I dont hear any rattling. That said, engine/exhaust/blower isnt exactly quiet either.
06-07-2007, 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by koji777
spec 3 lasted 1 yr, spec 5 lasted 6 weeks. Went with Tex Twin..........5 months and counting
06-07-2007, 04:11 AM
#37
My Spec Stage 3 lasted three years, and it took a lot of abuse. We've been using and installing Spec Stage 3+ clutched since they came out, and have not had any problems with them at all. Bob
