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Old 06-12-2007, 03:49 PM
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I guess I should add that I'm asking this to decide if the speed inc setup would work out on my motor. Those two turbos were the options I have to choose from. I'd love a high and up front setup but prefer to do the install myself.
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Originally Posted by Lythropus
graph please...gt35R aren't even rated that high...and going from GT35r's to GT47's?

sorry i stand corrected i check with the tuner and he said 1200 was the most made with the gt35rs he does now have gt40rs right now and the most produced was 1450 but now hes going to the 47-76s with spray
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Originally Posted by ss_girl
I guess I should add that I'm asking this to decide if the speed inc setup would work out on my motor. Those two turbos were the options I have to choose from. I'd love a high and up front setup but prefer to do the install myself.
We aren't currently selling that system. Both I and Inspector12 on the board had a problem with the drivers side manifold. The #7 primary cracked where it joined the main tube. Though mine has been fine since re-welding, I did not expect to have any problems with the integrity of the manifolds. I was wrong.

I'm trying to find a foundry that can duplicate the manifolds in cast iron in low quantities.

The other option would be to integrate slip/expansion joints into the manifolds, but I couldn't be 100% certain of reliability until they were actually put into service and tested.
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Originally Posted by CHRISPY
That is a BEAUTIFUL setup... Are you running flip 6L manifolds or custom?

How is the intercooler setup? Are you merging into both turbos into one outlet or one on each side and the outlet on top.

Very nice work...
Reversed 6.0L truck manifolds.
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Originally Posted by DrTurbo
Depends on what your comparing it to. The GT4294 or otherwise known as the GT42-70 is rated in the link below by GT themselves at 850hp

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...4_731376_1.htm

The GT4202 or otherwise known as the GT42-74 is rated below as well at 1000hp.

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...2_731376_2.htm

Also the ETT 70 wheel alone flows 94.XX lbs/min.

Yeah looks like I was going by the number listed in this link....well I guess you can't always believe the crap that folks put on thier website.
http://www.precisionturbo.net/turboc...tegory_id=3023
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after riding in inspector's car, i wouldn't go any smaller then the 67's... they spool too god damn violently now, lol
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Originally Posted by INTMD8
We aren't currently selling that system. Both I and Inspector12 on the board had a problem with the drivers side manifold. The #7 primary cracked where it joined the main tube. Though mine has been fine since re-welding, I did not expect to have any problems with the integrity of the manifolds. I was wrong.

I'm trying to find a foundry that can duplicate the manifolds in cast iron in low quantities.

The other option would be to integrate slip/expansion joints into the manifolds, but I couldn't be 100% certain of reliability until they were actually put into service and tested.
OMG if thats not standing by your customers needs, even if it not in your own best intrests, then i dont know what is! greta to see this kind of thinking in a market that offten takes your money and runs! big thumbs up to you guys!

sorry back to topic now

Chris.
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Originally Posted by DrTurbo
Depends on what your comparing it to. The GT4294 or otherwise known as the GT42-70 is rated in the link below by GT themselves at 850hp

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...4_731376_1.htm

The GT4202 or otherwise known as the GT42-74 is rated below as well at 1000hp.

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...2_731376_2.htm

Also the ETT 70 wheel alone flows 94.XX lbs/min.
DrTurbo are you saything the ST70 will flow the same/more than the GT4202? im guessing the spool times of the ST70 would be faster than the GT42 (the T4 one) even with its BB???

thanks Chris.
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Originally Posted by chuntington101
OMG if thats not standing by your customers needs, even if it not in your own best intrests, then i dont know what is! greta to see this kind of thinking in a market that offten takes your money and runs! big thumbs up to you guys!

sorry back to topic now

Chris.
Yeah Jim has been second to none and while I am in love with the kit and I have rewelded my manifold as well I am concerned and have been limiting my driving of the car as I don't want to have to pull the motor again right now. I do believe Jim's recomendation for the 67's was the best for my CI motor. If I had to do it over again I don't know if I would have built that big of a CI motor and went with the GT35's. I am hopping Jim gets these manifolds done with in a reasonable amount of time as I would really like to drive the car more without hesitation. Love the kit though.
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Originally Posted by Inspector12
Yeah Jim has been second to none and while I am in love with the kit and I have rewelded my manifold as well I am concerned and have been limiting my driving of the car as I don't want to have to pull the motor again right now. I do believe Jim's recomendation for the 67's was the best for my CI motor. If I had to do it over again I don't know if I would have built that big of a CI motor and went with the GT35's. I am hopping Jim gets these manifolds done with in a reasonable amount of time as I would really like to drive the car more without hesitation. Love the kit though.
Jeff
Yeah I'll have a solution for you guys one way or another. I've also talked with Peter at APS about buying you guys some of their manifolds. I -think- they could possibly work with some slight modification as turbo placement is very similar.
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Originally Posted by INTMD8
Yeah I'll have a solution for you guys one way or another. I've also talked with Peter at APS about buying you guys some of their manifolds. I -think- they could possibly work with some slight modification as turbo placement is very similar.
This is why Jim is the best guy I've bought parts from in a long time. Customer service.
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Originally Posted by chuntington101
DrTurbo are you saything the ST70 will flow the same/more than the GT4202? im guessing the spool times of the ST70 would be faster than the GT42 (the T4 one) even with its BB???

thanks Chris.
The ST70 comp wheel flows the lbs/ min quoted above. I can't say it will outpower anything since we do work for alot of the major turbo companies , but you can read the numbers . Yes it is a bad turbo

As for spool times it will be close. The wheel is a touch smaller, but the shaft in these things is larger and much tougher. So its a toss up.
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I'll take that thrid defective kit from speedinc at a lowered price and it if breaks I'll fix it!
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Originally Posted by INTMD8
Yeah I'll have a solution for you guys one way or another. I've also talked with Peter at APS about buying you guys some of their manifolds. I -think- they could possibly work with some slight modification as turbo placement is very similar.
We will talk more soon my friend.

Peter
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Originally Posted by INTMD8
Yeah I'll have a solution for you guys one way or another. I've also talked with Peter at APS about buying you guys some of their manifolds. I -think- they could possibly work with some slight modification as turbo placement is very similar.
Jim Im still going to ge that cam from you and a 3 bar map and adapter for my stock PCM. Just need to get to that point. Thanks for all your help and Jeff highly reconemnded you!
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Hi Guys, Here's the latest power/torque graph of the APS ZO6 twin turbo system on a bone stock LS7 engine on 93 octane fuel at 6.5 PSI, enjoy!

Twin GT3582R turbos at low boost.

Peter

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Hey Peter are these the same turbos you are offering with the F-body kit LOL? I know they are not, but could they be LOL? Thanks.
Jeff

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