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Old 06-20-2007, 07:21 AM
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Default Tial 38mm Wastegate and 50mm BOV sufficient?

Are these going to be sufficient for an ls1 with a T-76? I'm looking for 700-750rwhp.

Also, is there a different BOV I can get so I can vent the air back into the intake? Keep the noise down some....sleeper....
Old 06-20-2007, 08:46 AM
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The wastegate sounds small.
My turbo supplier specified two 38mm wastegates for my twin 55mm build up.
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You could run a Tial 60 - or TWO 38s.


Wastegate control and more importantly placement is key to a nice turbo setup. Alot of people under gate cars....bad.
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I would run the JGS60 before a tial. Its piston driven and will take alot more abuse over the years then a Tial. Plus better construction (ala all precision CNC)....
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Originally Posted by striker754
Also, is there a different BOV I can get so I can vent the air back into the intake? Keep the noise down some....sleeper....
That would be a bypass valve used for a draw-through MAF application. But if you vent it back into the system before the throttle blade, you still have all of the original pressure in the intake tract. If you vent it after the throttle blade, that may work, unless you use a MAF between the BOV and intake manifold. In that case, unmetered air would enter the system.

If you are running SD, I don't think that would be a problem.
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Originally Posted by Silver02Z28
That would be a bypass valve used for a draw-through MAF application. But if you vent it back into the system before the throttle blade, you still have all of the original pressure in the intake tract. If you vent it after the throttle blade, that may work, unless you use a MAF between the BOV and intake manifold. In that case, unmetered air would enter the system.

If you are running SD, I don't think that would be a problem.
Yeah running SD would be the way to go.
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Originally Posted by DrTurbo
I would run the JGS60 before a tial. Its piston driven and will take alot more abuse over the years then a Tial. Plus better construction (ala all precision CNC)....

We run Tial on everything we build and have never had a problem with the BOVs or Gates.

But don't take our word for it - Tial is run in the 24hours of lemans race in the GT2 Porsche....so, it will take alot of abuse. Not to mention much easier to get parts for (springs)

I am not saying the the JGS60 is not a good product (never seen it) but I would say the Tials are great and problem free.


Just my experience.

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Originally Posted by Silver02Z28
That would be a bypass valve used for a draw-through MAF application. But if you vent it back into the system before the throttle blade, you still have all of the original pressure in the intake tract. If you vent it after the throttle blade, that may work, unless you use a MAF between the BOV and intake manifold. In that case, unmetered air would enter the system.

If you are running SD, I don't think that would be a problem.

so you guys think a tial 60mm WG would work well?

I will probably be using speed density. Aren't you supposed to bypass it to the intake of the compressor? I just want to try to stay somewhat stealth....although that is going to be hard with a t76 spooling...
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FWIW, Jose told me I should be okay running a JGS 40mm wastegate (A VERY compact unit capable of handling 750+WHP.-JGS tool website)
on my 396/S400 project. I think the 60mm version for a T76 wouldnt hurt, but he could probably get away with at least a 40mm, couldnt he?

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I used a Tial 48mm Pro Gate on my LS1/S80 project .
I hope to make it run next week .
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Tial 44mm Wastegate and 50mm BOV. DONE!

That seems to be what 95% of people run on here regardless of their goals.
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so you think a 44mm will be sufficient?



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