turbo or pro charger
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From: MI
Re: turbo or pro charger Well I've been back and forth on the decision for over a year and a half now. 
(I guess it's better to think it out and get what you really are going to want.) First it was a turbo, then a P-1sc ati blower, then and incon twin turbo, then an ati D-1sc, then heads and cam, then single turbo again, then ati F-1, now it's back to a twin turbo setup (maybe even a custom setup from a turbo shop in town). After seeing Harlan's car move the way it does, I am dead set again on a TT setup. Plus I just drove a big turboed RUF Porsche and love the way the power came on. It was actually usable on the street! I can only imagine the power and torque when coupled to a V8. I love the rocketship feel of a turbo car. Plus it feels good to beat a supra at their own game 
That and if i ever have any troubles Harlan-the master at tuning and twin turbos in this area is only an hour away, (45min if your in a car that moves :p) I don't know why the decision wasn't more obvious but now I finally know. If I were you I would go the turbo route. Better daily driver, don't have to worry about belt slip when actually running decent boost, and no one will know it's there until you wind it up. Sorry if long. 
Hope you figure it out. I hear Rob's is one of the best out there. 
(I guess it's better to think it out and get what you really are going to want.) First it was a turbo, then a P-1sc ati blower, then and incon twin turbo, then an ati D-1sc, then heads and cam, then single turbo again, then ati F-1, now it's back to a twin turbo setup (maybe even a custom setup from a turbo shop in town). After seeing Harlan's car move the way it does, I am dead set again on a TT setup. Plus I just drove a big turboed RUF Porsche and love the way the power came on. It was actually usable on the street! I can only imagine the power and torque when coupled to a V8. I love the rocketship feel of a turbo car. Plus it feels good to beat a supra at their own game That and if i ever have any troubles Harlan-the master at tuning and twin turbos in this area is only an hour away, (45min if your in a car that moves :p) I don't know why the decision wasn't more obvious but now I finally know. If I were you I would go the turbo route. Better daily driver, don't have to worry about belt slip when actually running decent boost, and no one will know it's there until you wind it up. Sorry if long. Hope you figure it out. I hear Rob's is one of the best out there. 
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Re: turbo or pro charger Each has there advantages/disadvantages...
I was in the same boat w/decisions, but the LS1motorsports kit came out to be too much, I'm running an ATI D-1SC now...
Who knows, in the future when I got nothing else better to do w/my dollars, I might switch over to a large single turbo, but for now I'm fine w/the supercharger squeal and some mad power...
I was in the same boat w/decisions, but the LS1motorsports kit came out to be too much, I'm running an ATI D-1SC now...
Who knows, in the future when I got nothing else better to do w/my dollars, I might switch over to a large single turbo, but for now I'm fine w/the supercharger squeal and some mad power...
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From: Maple Grove MN
Re: turbo or pro charger I like my ATI D-1SC. If I had a never ending amount of money I would have gone with a Twin Turbo setup. It would be nice to have the power at any RPM without winding the RPMs up first. When I finally get my tuning dead on, I know I'll have a lot of fun with the supercharger. Its loud but when people hear it they know you've got power. You get a lot of looks when they hear the whine. Good luck with whatever you choose.
Justin
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Re: turbo or pro charger $8000 will barely get you the turbo kit, but it would definitely be the best bang for the buck.
Do you have the rear end/suspension/tranny done yet? I would get a new fuel system, maybe a stroker kit (definitely new pistons and rods), really good heads, cam biased towards boost, drivetrain (rear end, clutch or trannie, stall conv), slicks and skinnies, etc. Then once you get the foundation, start thinking about a turbo kit. A T-88 is good for low nines / high eight's when well tuned.
Without that, you are just going to frustrate yourself. Just a rear end, tires, and a clutch or stall convertor is about $4000+ (+installation)! Don't forget $400 in gauges, too. All I am saying is make sure you look at all the cost invloved in what you need to reach your horsepower goals. Putting 600 on the ground is no good if you break something everytime you hit full throttle.
-Geoff
Do you have the rear end/suspension/tranny done yet? I would get a new fuel system, maybe a stroker kit (definitely new pistons and rods), really good heads, cam biased towards boost, drivetrain (rear end, clutch or trannie, stall conv), slicks and skinnies, etc. Then once you get the foundation, start thinking about a turbo kit. A T-88 is good for low nines / high eight's when well tuned.
Without that, you are just going to frustrate yourself. Just a rear end, tires, and a clutch or stall convertor is about $4000+ (+installation)! Don't forget $400 in gauges, too. All I am saying is make sure you look at all the cost invloved in what you need to reach your horsepower goals. Putting 600 on the ground is no good if you break something everytime you hit full throttle.
-Geoff
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From: Shelby Twp, MI
Re: turbo or pro charger I am very happy with my single turbo setup. A T88 is a big turbo and you will be spending a lot more than 8000 to set the car up to handle that bad boy. I am running a T60-1. I almost got the ATI D-1SC, but once I saw some turbo cars at the shop, I was convinced that I wanted the turbo setup instead. You will probably like either one, but it's gonna cost you a lot!
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Re: turbo or pro charger Thanks for all the info. I've already bought a 400 turbo, 12bolt, and all the suspension goodys. The only thing I'am missing is the block. I dont know what ci to go with, or if I should make it an iron or an Alu. block. Should I bye the c5 block? See the way I see it is, if Im going to spend that much money. Shouldnt I just bye the best. I know that theres more to all this. I just want to get everything and get it all out of the way and go to the track and have some fun.
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From: Hammond La,
Re: turbo or pro charger Lee Howie is doing a turbo set up for us. I can tell you to do it right it will cost alot more than 8k. I would start with a good short block build up and buget to get what you need as you can. You never stated what your goals are for the car. That the first thing you will need to decide.
Darren
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Re: turbo or pro charger Turbo all the way.After reading your post I,m thinking you want big power.A blower will have you needing Prozac when you break belts every pass.I got rid of my D-1,still havent seen anyone making big power(550rwhp)without neverending problems.Turbo is the way too go LS1MS T-76 would be good fit for you,t-88 opens big can of worms
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From: Grove City Ohio/Port Washington L.I sometimes
Re: turbo or pro charger With C5R block turbo kit,fuel system you need to have about $30-40.000.Im using 6.0 block bored and stroked with all the goodies LS1MS T-76 kit and will be close to 30 grand.That is with ARE doing everything.If your looking for 8s I think sbc with custom big thumper turbo would be cheaper and make more power,(did I say cheap and custom turbo in same sentence).Good luck let us know.
