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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 08:11 AM
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Hey guys Ive got a lead on a smoking deal to get this setup. How is the idle on these? I have the 60# mototron injectors allready. But Im thinking my duty cycle will get over 85% quickly with the new setup. I was also looking into the RC 72 # ers but for the same price I can get a versafueler and 96 injectors. Just want to get a little feedback. I did a search but really didnt get a good answer. But I know us FI guys with stock PCM's like to push the limits

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on my 346 I Couldnt get the AFR's to be higher then 11.1 or so at idle.

I made the injector pw's as small as I could without adverse effects and still no cookie.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 08:39 AM
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on my 346 I Couldnt get the AFR's to be higher then 11.1 or so at idle.

I made the injector pw's as small as I could without adverse effects and still no cookie.
Hmm so what did you end up doing? I dont want to Fuel foul plugs.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 08:50 AM
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I did that setup on a 408ci truck and it idles at 14.5-1. On the first start it idle'd at 17-1 A/F. The Versa/96's worked perfect.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 08:54 AM
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I did that setup on a 408ci truck and it idles at 14.5-1. On the first start it idle'd at 17-1 A/F. The Versa/96's worked perfect.
So I should pull the trigger? Slowhawk I read alot of your posts and respect your opinion I will be in 3 bar SD via hptuners 402ci,AFR 225's,APS TT system.

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I lived with it, it would load up the plugs if I idle too long, but just needed some boost to clean it up lol...

when I reduced the PW's enough to affect the AFR (below 1 ms), the car would start buckling on cruise.

Im sure that now that I have more displacement it will be fine.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 09:12 AM
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I lived with it, it would load up the plugs if I idle too long, but just needed some boost to clean it up lol...

when I reduced the PW's enough to affect the AFR (below 1 ms), the car would start buckling on cruise.

Im sure that now that I have more displacement it will be fine.
This is what I am thinking. I guess Ill keep the 60's and just buy these and try them out. Counting the days to having my ride back!
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 09:31 AM
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JM - the first post in this thread has some good info on how to get 96'ers to run on a stock PCM. I haven't tried it yet, but I will be in a similar situation as you come mid August.
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Hmm interesting. Thanks for the link!
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mine idle fine except when coolant temps are under 100 degrees...i am sure its my tune though as i am open loop/speed density. otherwise, they idle and run fine.
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There is so many mixed results with this Im on the fence. I allready know Im going to have to iron out some bugs but Ill dont need fuel fouling problems. Guess Ill hold out a bit today and see what becomes of this thread.
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i dunno what they will do in cold weather but i just went to make you a vid...coolant temps were 195 deg and at idle it was showing 16-17:1 a/f.....when i gave it some gast it went to 14.5ish......you will have no probs with a 400+ ci motor. Now i do run my fp on a boost/vac regulator....base pressure is set to like 38psi i think with the hose off.
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Originally Posted by cablebandit
i dunno what they will do in cold weather but i just went to make you a vid...coolant temps were 195 deg and at idle it was showing 16-17:1 a/f.....when i gave it some gast it went to 14.5ish......you will have no probs with a 400+ ci motor. Now i do run my fp on a boost/vac regulator....base pressure is set to like 38psi i think with the hose off.
Man I really appericate you taking the time to help me out. Im just going to pull the trigger on this and if it pisses me off bye bye stock PCM and hello BS3
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You will have no issues. Email me if you have any further questions after trying my suggestions up top on the link TaQuickness put up.
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i used nitrorockets info he posted on the efilive forum to get mine running leaner. Before that, it was terrible. I THINK i got my cold idle better this morning as well but you only get like one chance a day to see if its right when its cold...we will see tomorrow

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i used nitrorockets info he posted on the efilive forum to get mine running leaner. Before that, it was terrible. I THINK i got my cold idle better this morning as well but you only get like one chance a day to see if its right when its cold...we will see tomorrow

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HP tuners shop version So I have everything 1,2 and 3 bar with rtt
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Since you will need 96'ers, why not take a stab at tuning them on the stock PCM before investing in additional hardware?
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Originally Posted by TAQuickness
Since you will need 96'ers, why not take a stab at tuning them on the stock PCM before investing in additional hardware?
Because they dont make high impedance 96 #er's. You will burn up the PCM using low impedance injectors. If I am understanding your question correctly.
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I have Harlans Box and Precision 96#ers and mine idles just fine.....

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I have Harlans Box and Precision 96#ers and mine idles just fine.....

Kyle
Thanks Kyle. I pmed the guy so I can buy it from him.
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