STS or P-1SC
Originally Posted by Websy21
Hey guys what do you think about a V9-trim with an aftercooler. I can buy a used one right now. I tried doing about 10 search's and nothing worked and they have always worked for me so far? I don't want to start a new thread for it either. I don't know anything about these systems and haven't heard a whole lot about them. Help would be much appreciated, thanks
for the battle between STS and procharger, i would go STS because it worked for me and it'll work for you
Originally Posted by White.Lightning
My $0.02:
I would just buy the D1-SC kit off of Bob at EPP. The kit is tried and true. Makes power as soon as the go pedal is pushed. The kit is very street friendly. Change the pulley's when you get used to the power and then start modding accordingly. Look on Streetfire or Ls1Tech videos for countless videos of procharger setups. You will not be dissapointed with that kit.
Best of luck
Andy
I would just buy the D1-SC kit off of Bob at EPP. The kit is tried and true. Makes power as soon as the go pedal is pushed. The kit is very street friendly. Change the pulley's when you get used to the power and then start modding accordingly. Look on Streetfire or Ls1Tech videos for countless videos of procharger setups. You will not be dissapointed with that kit.
Best of luck
Andy
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Originally Posted by fast00ls1
my buddy bought a used procharger for his fox body and it was a p1sc and it locked up on the dyno and sent metal though the engine. another friend with a v-6 procharged mustang bought his new and it has locked up twice. i am about to sound like a broken record but another friend has a pamperd 94 mustang gt with a p1sc and it sounds like its on its last leg the car only has a total of 17,000 miles on it. when i say it sounds like on its last leg i mean the prcharger, and they all changed their fluid just like they where supposed to. hope its just a mustang thing huh.And by the way iam not nocking procharger even though it sounds like it but maybe if u bought a new kit and if somthing happend to it they may help you on fixing it. but i do relise are trying to this on a buget so good luck man trust me i no what it is like to be tight on green backs i have been off work for months because of a broken knee cap!
I've got a STS on my car. I like it and have never had any problems with the STS kit itself. I made 467hp/508tq at the wheels on a completely stock car (suspension excluded). However, if you go with the STS, I would recommend a good local tuner and not a mail order. I blew 2 rings in my car due to a mail order tune. Not every stock car runs the same so a mail order tune can't get the little things your car might need that a different car might not. A buddy and I both did the exact same STS mods on our cars with the exact same tune. His is still going strong and mine blew up. Mine also made more HP at the wheels than his.
Originally Posted by Exotic Performance Plus
Thanks, I appreciate it! Bob
You need to do a bit more searching before you buy anything. Who knows, a heads/cam setup with full bolt ons may be enough power for you.
Best of luck
Andy
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Thanks and I have done endless research on my budget range. I know I simply can't afford a Top Notch Turbo Kit, there's more to it than the initial expense. If I do something I want to do it right. There is that fine line between you internal limits. to me it would be a waste of money to get a big *** single turbo set up or a nice twin turbo set up if you are going within stock internals. Unless you know you ahve the funds in the future for you engine, drivetrain, etc. I would be happy with a reliable 450-500 rwhp DD. I think either the basic Supercharger kit at 7-8psi or STS kit either with a cam would acheive this easily with a tune. Yes stock drivetrain won't hold up but conservabitably for awhile and it won't cost 10 000 like a motor would. I agree on a Supercharger, the most basic set up with great proven results. Plus my suspension and exhaust is done to compliment it. Where as with a turbo the exhaust would have been a waste of money. Now if I could only get my hands on a decent used S/C!
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Originally Posted by Websy21
Thanks and I have done endless research on my budget range. I know I simply can't afford a Top Notch Turbo Kit, there's more to it than the initial expense. If I do something I want to do it right. There is that fine line between you internal limits. to me it would be a waste of money to get a big *** single turbo set up or a nice twin turbo set up if you are going within stock internals. Unless you know you ahve the funds in the future for you engine, drivetrain, etc. I would be happy with a reliable 450-500 rwhp DD. I think either the basic Supercharger kit at 7-8psi or STS kit either with a cam would acheive this easily with a tune. Yes stock drivetrain won't hold up but conservabitably for awhile and it won't cost 10 000 like a motor would. I agree on a Supercharger, the most basic set up with great proven results. Plus my suspension and exhaust is done to compliment it. Where as with a turbo the exhaust would have been a waste of money. Now if I could only get my hands on a decent used S/C!
Keep us informed!
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Even then though, no offense to EPP but I really doubt a mail order tune would do the job. A trip into the city to get my car dyno'd would be an easy 1000 bucks. Tunes in my country are $700, wish I had the luxary like most of you!
Originally Posted by Websy21
Even then though, no offense to EPP but I really doubt a mail order tune would do the job. A trip into the city to get my car dyno'd would be an easy 1000 bucks. Tunes in my country are $700, wish I had the luxary like most of you!
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With this gauge you can confirm the air/fuel ratio in the upper rpm range is where it should be, which would be around 11.5/1. Bob
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To be honest with you I have not researched at all into the EFI live. With my 95 Eclipse AWD big turbo etc, I did all my own tuning and it is quite a challenge. I don't think I want to get into that again. I am going to just pay to get it dyno'd and done right the first time. As for the AEM Wideband, that was the exact one I was going to go with. Either turbo or S/C I was not even gonna think for a moment to NOT run with one. Thanks again guys, you all have been great help! Very much appreciated!
Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
If you use EFI live on a mail order but leave the PCM unlocked, theoretically one should be able to then modify with another software like HPT, NO?
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I couldn't tell you but I can tell you that my PCM was unlocked and had to be flashed back to stock because they couldn't even read it.
My car is export and has no O2s so LIFTs and O2 feedback is out the window. It is tuned in what they call OLMAF (Open loop MAF)
I spoke to Allen Nelson, he will take care of me (as he did before) and I will fine tune.
Man I can't wait till the end of Summer. Now the choice of SC, Maggie or P1SC (no need for bigger, I'll never put more than 7psi on it), I think I'll end up with a P1SC and FMIC.
You want to use the same software that the tune has been supplied with, as they are not compatible. Meaning, if the computer was tuned with EFI live, then you want to make your changes with EFI live. A single user version of EFI live is $550.00, not cheap, but if you're overseas it may be the only option you have. Bob
Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
Hmm, yeah I already have a dynojet wideband, I'm no genious at tuning but once I have a base I can manage.
My car is export and has no O2s so LIFTs and O2 feedback is out the window. It is tuned in what they call OLMAF (Open loop MAF)
I spoke to Allen Nelson, he will take care of me (as he did before) and I will fine tune.
Man I can't wait till the end of Summer. Now the choice of SC, Maggie or P1SC (no need for bigger, I'll never put more than 7psi on it), I think I'll end up with a P1SC and FMIC.
My car is export and has no O2s so LIFTs and O2 feedback is out the window. It is tuned in what they call OLMAF (Open loop MAF)
I spoke to Allen Nelson, he will take care of me (as he did before) and I will fine tune.
Man I can't wait till the end of Summer. Now the choice of SC, Maggie or P1SC (no need for bigger, I'll never put more than 7psi on it), I think I'll end up with a P1SC and FMIC.
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
Hmm, yeah I already have a dynojet wideband, I'm no genious at tuning but once I have a base I can manage.
My car is export and has no O2s so LIFTs and O2 feedback is out the window. It is tuned in what they call OLMAF (Open loop MAF)
I spoke to Allen Nelson, he will take care of me (as he did before) and I will fine tune.
Man I can't wait till the end of Summer. Now the choice of SC, Maggie or P1SC (no need for bigger, I'll never put more than 7psi on it), I think I'll end up with a P1SC and FMIC.
My car is export and has no O2s so LIFTs and O2 feedback is out the window. It is tuned in what they call OLMAF (Open loop MAF)
I spoke to Allen Nelson, he will take care of me (as he did before) and I will fine tune.
Man I can't wait till the end of Summer. Now the choice of SC, Maggie or P1SC (no need for bigger, I'll never put more than 7psi on it), I think I'll end up with a P1SC and FMIC.
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Buck for parts, it is the most trouble free and friendly system. Can be take off in a split as well. my motor is forged but i only want 500 street rwhp, nothing obnoxious just enough to whip some exotic ***.