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Old 08-08-2007, 02:22 AM
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I cant find anything through search....how much boost can I SAFELY run on a 100% stock LS1. Im considering going with the remote location sts system. The car will be daily driven. Aslo how much boost can the ls1 block handle? At what point will the block just crack? I know I'd need to go with different heads and upgrade alot, but how much boost can the actual block handle? Thanks for any input or even pointing me in the right directions.
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safe boost would be under 10lbs. id personally recommend for a VERY SAFE situation.. 5-6lbs. but for still a safe yet fun ride. 8lbs will do the job.
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limit is more in the power you make i think...try not to get over 600 rw
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Your block will not suffer any damage under 1k rwhp most likely.

You should be worrying about the stock pistons which may begin to crumble for most at power levels of 500 rwhp and up.

This is assuming a competent install and spot on tune. In terms of boost that is about 8-10 psi on an otherwise bone stock LS1.
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I agree, I'd go for 8 psi on your stock pistons, and the block itself can handle somewhere around 1000 rwhp. Bob
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THe way its been described to me is a ratio, 3 hp per 1 cubic inch ratio, Once you go beyond that, **** starts to break. Which is around the 1000 hp mark.
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So lets pretend that 1lb of boost = 25hp. Your telling me that I could run 25lbs of boost and my block would be ok? obviously alot of other things would not be ok but my aluminum block isnt gonna blow to piecies? Other things take into consideration of being able to run 25lbs of boost I do understand that though.
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aluminum blocks are pretty strong...think they do have iron sleeves..
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Originally Posted by baldwintpenguin
So lets pretend that 1lb of boost = 25hp. Your telling me that I could run 25lbs of boost and my block would be ok? obviously alot of other things would not be ok but my aluminum block isnt gonna blow to piecies? Other things take into consideration of being able to run 25lbs of boost I do understand that though.
Your math is flawed, it doesnt make sense, there is no set hp per 1PSI of boost # There are alot of factors that work into an output of a motor. Speaking purely about the motor, the blocks tend to have issues at the 1000 hp mark, not to mention the rods and pistons may fail far before that #.
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Originally Posted by baldwintpenguin
So lets pretend that 1lb of boost = 25hp. Your telling me that I could run 25lbs of boost and my block would be ok? obviously alot of other things would not be ok but my aluminum block isnt gonna blow to piecies? Other things take into consideration of being able to run 25lbs of boost I do understand that though.
I coulda swore I made it very clear in this post but apparently not. Yes I know the math is flawed. I was using it purely as an example.

But thanks for the info everyone, I've decieded to build my LS1 for as much boost as possible before upgrading to more cubic inches if i'm not satisfied with the output.
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10 psi or less on a great solid tune.
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Originally Posted by baldwintpenguin
So lets pretend that 1lb of boost = 25hp. Your telling me that I could run 25lbs of boost and my block would be ok? obviously alot of other things would not be ok but my aluminum block isnt gonna blow to piecies? Other things take into consideration of being able to run 25lbs of boost I do understand that though.
your pistons are the most fragile thing in the shortblock.
then theres the rods.

your crank and block can take over 1000hp without issue... over 1000, things might start to wiggle a bit, but noone yet has broken an LS1 block from too much power... they have however started to see stuff move around a bit over the 1k mark.



this isnt a ford block, we actually have metal holding the two halves of the block together.. LOL
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Very true, but I have yet to hear about a stock rod failure.
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Originally Posted by bboyferal
Very true, but I have yet to hear about a stock rod failure.

lookup the words "spun" and "bearing"
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Originally Posted by baldwintpenguin
I coulda swore I made it very clear in this post but apparently not. Yes I know the math is flawed. I was using it purely as an example.

But thanks for the info everyone, I've decieded to build my LS1 for as much boost as possible before upgrading to more cubic inches if i'm not satisfied with the output.
If you want max power, do it all at once, if you want to run until you blow it, you could **** the block which means more money.

Its on or around 8 psi.
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do you guys know of anyone that sells a kit for practically all the fordged internals i'd need to run high boost and not blow the hell outta my engine? Or at least a good trustworthy company that sells them?
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Lunati & Eagle for rotating assemblies. Plus alot of other companies that make parts of the rotating assembly.

SLP, Extreme HP, Scoggin Dickey, MTI, Texas Speed, W2W, and Thunder Racing for forged short blocks in multiple displacements.

Check the sponsors, there are alot of GOOD deals. I'm thinking of getting a forged 383 from SDparts or Extreme

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I have been pushing 12-13 lbs with my turbo . so far so good. !!!
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Originally Posted by MrDude_1
lookup the words "spun" and "bearing"
Not that often either...


Mine were fine after 10 psi on the stock longblock.

More often, at least in this forum and my limited experience, I hear about pistons taking a dump... Very often.

Of course, that is definitely a danger too.


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