Looking for 2nd opinions.... Forced Induction camshaft selection...
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I made 73_rwhp with Crane 832's, and 230/236 Cam Motion Cam.... 17 psi I think thru a T400. I have had a lot of springs in my car. When I went to 236/246 cam I had to change the springs to 977's.
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Nothing wrong with the cam unless its a tooth off or something.
I'm running a 232/240 115 XER with a 9.2:1 346 and making a bit more power then he is. 5 psi isnt going to get you much, I run 25 degrees + of timing at the 5psi level, goes down as the boost goes up naturally.
Valve float is a possibility, if the power just stops at a certain RPM but I'm sure you guys know about what springs to use with that size cam.
Get some more boost or add some timing..
I'm running a 232/240 115 XER with a 9.2:1 346 and making a bit more power then he is. 5 psi isnt going to get you much, I run 25 degrees + of timing at the 5psi level, goes down as the boost goes up naturally.
Valve float is a possibility, if the power just stops at a certain RPM but I'm sure you guys know about what springs to use with that size cam.
Get some more boost or add some timing..
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Originally Posted by Ron@Vengeance
Thanx for all of the responses so far. Customer is putting in a MUCH smaller cam and coming back for more tuning. We will see what happens.
I would think he would much happier with a smaler cam regardless of the peak power
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I am no cam expert but seems to me that the cam was ground with alot of duration and not enough LSA to compensate, not that LSA should be used to dial back the cam, the duration should have been matched for the application more effectivly. Definitly seems to be that Boost is being bleed off. Also through I would think to see this cam in a larger cubic inch D1 or better procharger.
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slowhawk how much total timing did you add, or did you add 8-10 degrees in low and midrange? that's amazing.
I'm running a 224/230 .581/.588 on a 115. it pulls n pulls n pulls, but i'd rather have something make more midrange and low personally for a street car.
I'm running a 224/230 .581/.588 on a 115. it pulls n pulls n pulls, but i'd rather have something make more midrange and low personally for a street car.
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I agree Ron ,you will need to make more boost now that the cam is flowing more air and keeping the valve's open longer and opening higher! It is possible that it will loose power until you pulley it for more boost.Stock piston's should be good for 8-10lbs of boost on a good, safe tune!
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Originally Posted by HUNTER02SS
I agree Ron ,you will need to make more boost now that the cam is flowing more air and keeping the valve's open longer and opening higher! It is possible that it will loose power until you pulley it for more boost.Stock piston's should be good for 8-10lbs of boost on a good, safe tune!
I wouldnt have expected to lose 70hp either but I can vary 50hp on the dynojet pretty easy with a little heat soak if I make one pull and do another right after. Plus like slowhawk mentioned a little timing here and there can a big difference.
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Originally Posted by kp
Well thats the thing, you cant expect to stick a big cam and more power with the same pullies unless you are moving a ton of air to start with. 8-9psi isnt much so I would guess its maybe a P1SC car or a D1 really slowed down.
I wouldnt have expected to lose 70hp either but I can vary 50hp on the dynojet pretty easy with a little heat soak if I make one pull and do another right after. Plus like slowhawk mentioned a little timing here and there can a big difference.
I wouldnt have expected to lose 70hp either but I can vary 50hp on the dynojet pretty easy with a little heat soak if I make one pull and do another right after. Plus like slowhawk mentioned a little timing here and there can a big difference.
I wonder if that car has a big single front mount or the 2 4inch. intercooler's,or maybe if it even has the older style,smaller intercooler's.?