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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 99Z28LS1
i think it's an easy kit to make power with....... 5.5-6 psi with cam and matching fuel + intercooler and made 503/512 with stock clutch and LT and ORY

if you have factory manifolds then you are ahead of me (for the time being..... i have ported and coated sotckers on the way with a coated y pipe) and i have a custom I pipe

you will ove it man, a little laggy, but you'll still stomp some ***
Yeah man I have Hooker LT's on mine, how much do the stock manifolds help spool time?
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 06:07 PM
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Couldn't you not put in a wastegate spring and make sure that you don't make any boost?
Smallest tial spring is 3.53 psi, which is still boost. Just stay off the gas and the car won't build boost.
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jeremy02
Well, thanks to 2000TurboVert, I might be getting an STS turbo system...what do all of you think of them?


Will it work with my Hooker catback? If I read right, it replaces the muffler, so will my aftermarket catback cause any problems?


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Jeremy...

There is a long list in the world of do nots...
  • Don't tell a man you like his butt!
  • Don't sit on a catus!
  • Don't laugh when your wife is pissed!!!!
  • Turbo's don't belong in the rear of a car unless it's a 911!!!!
  • Don't buy a turbo kit that makes the same power as a heads cam package!
  • Don't buy STS....
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 8thmile
Jeremy...

There is a long list in the world of do nots...
  • Don't tell a man you like his butt!
  • Don't sit on a catus!
  • Don't laugh when your wife is pissed!!!!
  • Turbo's don't belong in the rear of a car unless it's a 911!!!!
  • Don't buy a turbo kit that makes the same power as a heads cam package!
  • Don't buy STS....
You do realize that a 475 rwhp H/C car is not as streetable as a 475 rwhp STS car...right? My car on the stock motor made 475 at the wheels, and drove completely stock. Better gas mileage, and when I needed it the thing pulled like an animal. Other than that...your list is pretty accurate!
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 08:07 PM
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You do realize that a 475 rwhp H/C car is not as streetable as a 475 rwhp STS car...right? My car on the stock motor made 475 at the wheels, and drove completely stock. Better gas mileage, and when I needed it the thing pulled like an animal. Other than that...your list is pretty accurate!

475 huh... ok just to start off.. this is all our personal opinions. A 475hp heads cam car is very streetable, when tuned correctly. And i drove 2 STS trans-ams which made roughly the same power and if the animal you are speaking of is a turtle, then your statement is accurate.. I guess i'm just used to fast cars and spending money wisely.. to each their own...
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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475 huh... ok just to start off.. this is all our personal opinions. A 475hp heads cam car is very streetable, when tuned correctly. And i drove 2 STS trans-ams which made roughly the same power and if the animal you are speaking of is a turtle, then your statement is accurate.. I guess i'm just used to fast cars and spending money wisely.. to each their own...
another hater?

read the title of this thread my friend, it says STS, not "people who hate STS, please come in and bash"

you also realize that the fastest FI car in this section if he still is/was a REAR-MOUNTED TURBO vette?
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 08:30 PM
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how much more streetable is a properly tuned H/C car? my camaro is another Z28 with a turbo cam that doesnt help me N/A, but when the boost comes in (provided i have a better clutch) it turns into a 500rwhp camaro with ALL the creature comforts of a small bolt-on camaro's fuel economy, but with BOOST, it makes 500........ explain that?
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 99camarosupersport
Yeah man I have Hooker LT's on mine, how much do the stock manifolds help spool time?
they help BIG time my friend, the stock castings hold heat in better, especially if you ceramic coat them, and im also going to have the ported too.

plus im going to get a custom Y-PIPE with ceramic coating and it will be DEI wrapped for better spool time.

plus ZOMBIE on here made a remarkable study about the noticeable pickup in a few psi with changing the downpipe to a short 4" out let...... a 3" out with an immediate 4" 90* bend facing the ground, or where ever you like
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 10:14 PM
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another hater?

read the title of this thread my friend, it says STS, not "people who hate STS, please come in and bash"

you also realize that the fastest FI car in this section if he still is/was a REAR-MOUNTED TURBO vette?

Actually MISTER KNOWALL... He asked what people thought of them.. Read the first ******* post...
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 8thmile
475 huh... ok just to start off.. this is all our personal opinions. A 475hp heads cam car is very streetable, when tuned correctly. And i drove 2 STS trans-ams which made roughly the same power and if the animal you are speaking of is a turtle, then your statement is accurate.. I guess i'm just used to fast cars and spending money wisely.. to each their own...
Lets see you try and push your H/C car to 600 rwhp and see how streetable it is. Not to mention how crappy your gas mileage will be. If you can achieve that you are a better man than anyone on this board. For me I'll just crank up the boost to achieve 700-750 rwhp and laugh at you in the rear view mirror. All while driving a 5000 lb work truck.
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 11:15 PM
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Play nice fellas or posts will be edited and/or removed from here on out.

Please only first hand experiences with STS kits i.e. those who actually own and drive em post up, all others put a lid on it.

Back on topic.
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Old Aug 26, 2007 | 12:40 AM
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Jeremy where are you located if you don't mind me askin. I believe turbowned is in the south and figure if your local i wouldn't mind showin you my car. always helps to see it and decide if its for you or not.
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Old Aug 26, 2007 | 12:43 AM
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I live in a tiny town in NC about 45 minutes from Charlotte. I'd love to see your car.


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Just looked at your location, and we aren't too close. :-p
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Old Aug 26, 2007 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by quicksilverado
Lets see you try and push your H/C car to 600 rwhp and see how streetable it is. Not to mention how crappy your gas mileage will be. If you can achieve that you are a better man than anyone on this board. For me I'll just crank up the boost to achieve 700-750 rwhp and laugh at you in the rear view mirror. All while driving a 5000 lb work truck.
This is exactly the point!! My car rides very well, very streetable, and when I get my fuel done....650-700 rwhp on tap. Obviously this can be done with any turbo setup, but I was able to install mine in my garage on jack stands with minimal problems. But, as mentioned earlier, it's a personal opinion. It just seems that people that have the STS setups tend to like it...those who don't own them, hate them for whatever reason.
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Old Aug 26, 2007 | 07:57 PM
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to be quite honest, i chose STS at the time because i could not afford a frount mount nor a procharger, so i went with STS because of the price. after install of the GT67, intercooler and 7.5 psi, the car netted 472/501 with stock motor........i was HIGHLY impressed. considering i was coming from shitty LT, shitty ORY and lid, prob making a max of 320rwhp and then go to making 472!!!!!! it was awesome

now i added a 228/228 cam and the car made another 30rwhp with a stock clutch, and those shitty LT's on only 5.5-6psi..... i have the 7.5psi spring!

the car will be in the shop pretty soon for a built T56, new clutch (that will hold ) ported and coated factory manifolds with a custom coated ypipe and we'll see how she moves after that...... im hoping for atleast 520rwhp without the use of 317 heads, meth and 10psi
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Old Aug 26, 2007 | 09:52 PM
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Guys there will always be hater for this kinda system! Just there is for superchargers and what not..

The best thing to do in this situation, is let this "Heads and Cam" guy have his *** handed to him by an STS car and then his opinion will change!

He needs to ride in a nice sts car and Im sure I will get a phone call.. "Hey man let me get a quote on one of those STS systems!!"
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Originally Posted by 99Z28LS1
Im hoping for atleast 520rwhp without the use of 317 heads, meth and 10psi
I think while your swapping manifolds you may as well toss in those last three things on top of that built t56

btw what clutch did you decide on?
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Originally Posted by JAvenger007
I think while your swapping manifolds you may as well toss in those last three things on top of that built t56

btw what clutch did you decide on?
Texas Drivetrain Performance clutch that billy recommended, plus it comes with a 6 month warranty . TRT told me that guys were making 450 N/A and throwing a 200 shot on top and doing fine

i'm also HIGHLY interested in 2.75 gears for the back for my highway rolls

knowing my freak car, it'll dyno over 540
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 11:11 AM
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I like my STS but besides the upgrades mentioned earlier, you should invest in a FMIC, front mount intercooler, and also i have pacesetter long tubes with the Y and i think i sounds better with the LTs but u lose spool time, so a quick fix is to heat paint the exhaust and then wrap it, and if u do wrap it make sure its tight, cover about half of the previous wrap and make sure it is back to front....
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Originally Posted by 99Z28LS1
they help BIG time my friend, the stock castings hold heat in better, especially if you ceramic coat them, and im also going to have the ported too.

plus im going to get a custom Y-PIPE with ceramic coating and it will be DEI wrapped for better spool time.

plus ZOMBIE on here made a remarkable study about the noticeable pickup in a few psi with changing the downpipe to a short 4" out let...... a 3" out with an immediate 4" 90* bend facing the ground, or where ever you like
Do you have pics of the downpipe, or a link to this thread please?
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