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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 02:02 PM
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Blah, I've tried searching this dang forum for an hour and it keeps kicking out blank pages. Scrolled through about 8 pages here in FI with nothing that stuck out. I've started researching for my turbo project again since I'm starting a new job soon. Originally I had wanted to use a stock PCM with a custom Speartech harness in my 94 conversion car. Having to use a 2 or 3 bar sensor will probably greatly enhance the complexity of tuning the car I realize. I was hoping to find some of the bigger power cars and some stuff about them but blank searches didn't get me far. I may hold out for a used Big Stuff, Megasquirt, or Accel DFI and piggyback it but my cost just went up considerably.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 11:19 AM
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Search still sucks for me. Anybody?
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 11:24 AM
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When you talk about big power, what range are you talking about?
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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efilive with the custom os is a nice alternative and still keeps gauges.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by cablebandit
efilive with the custom os is a nice alternative and still keeps gauges.
I agree, stock PCM with the correct programming from EFI LIve will work great for you
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 11:45 AM
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Get a PCM from PCMforless.com then get it tuned...
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 11:55 AM
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All depends on how much power you are talking about...

The Stock computer with 60lb Mototrons and 90psi fuel pressure will net you about 900rwhp with a good tune.

Stock computer with Injector Driver and 96lbs will get you way up over 1000ho but depending on the engine size idle can suffer, due to the slow injector response time and limited IPW.

If you are looking for a full race setup then BS3 is really the way to go.

Megasquirt is still not working with the LS1, it cannot read the Timing signals so it cannot control the ignitions, you could use a MSD L6 box to control the ignition then use the MS box for the fueling.
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Thanks for the responses guys! My biggest concern with the stock PCM was the 2/3 bar MAP on stock PCM but I assume EFI Live will take care of this? I've never used EFI Live before, how does it outperform? I did in fact plan on using an injector driver with low imp 96# injectors to put me in the 1000 hp range. I had also planned on getting a base file either from PCM For Less or contact my dyno tuner and see if he'll do me a base file.
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Over all cost of widebands and misc guages just got with the Bigstuff3. You can run it on a stock car and all gauges and everything works even the A/C.
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Originally Posted by 1INSANEGTO
Over all cost of widebands and misc guages just got with the Bigstuff3. You can run it on a stock car and all gauges and everything works even the A/C.
Mine's gonna be a conversion car, hence the Speartech harness. I'll look into BS3.
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BS3 is like $2k right? A conversion harness, EFIL, and a low impedance converter sounds like $1800 worth of stuff?
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BS3 is like $1650.00

You have
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No need for impedance converter.
Tuning per cyl
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And the list goes on.
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
BS3 is like $2k right? A conversion harness, EFIL, and a low impedance converter sounds like $1800 worth of stuff?
Sure does! I contacted BS and they told me to give Larry at ASSC a call, whoever and wherever that is. I'm thinking it'll probably work just from what I read about it. By the time I buy a wideband, it would be at $2K.
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For $1650.00 it comes with a wideband. Let me know if you need a hook up and I will pass on my contacts number
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Looks like these guys assc racing He said he's gonna study the wiring schematic for my car and get back with me on this bad boy. He thinks I can use the system with my conversion.

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ASSC is not a sponsor though Larry is a nice guy and local to me.

I suggest buying it from W2W Kurt has outstanding custom support for BS3.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
ASSC is not a sponsor though Larry is a nice guy and local to me.

I suggest buying it from W2W Kurt has outstanding custom support for BS3.
Yeah I realize ASSC is not a sponsor, I can remove the link if necessary. Tried doing business with W2W in the past and they would not return my phone calls. Not real pleased with their service.
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All you need is Base system. Nothing more. It comes with everything complete harness what is there to study?
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I'd be interested to know where to get the BS3 for $1650?
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Originally Posted by DanZ28
I'd be interested to know where to get the BS3 for $1650?
I've never found any place to sell the LS1 system for less than the 2300MSRP, the ls1 with Trans control is around $2800.
The SBC/BBC setup is around 1800.

BS3 is incredibly strict with their pricing regulations, i've heard of them closing merchant accounts for not adhering to the sales contract and Pricing policy.
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