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Old 06-19-2003, 10:33 PM
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her= my car
Old 06-19-2003, 11:00 PM
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Has anyone pulled the pan-hard bar support bracket? I was just wondering how the car handled after it was off. My exhaust keeps hitting it, so I figured I could pull it if I reinforced the stock mount. Any comments on this?

Also, passenger side airbig? Seeeyaaa! Better wear your seatbelt when you ride with me! I have been in a head on at 75 mph with no airbag in a 76 T/A, so I am a firm believer in the seat belt. Airbags are just another liberal ploy to defeat social darwinism. If you're not smart enough to wear your seatbelt...

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Old 06-20-2003, 12:27 AM
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I was thinking about installing a cage, but I don't race my car that much, and its an extra 60lbs....I will see how bad the car scares the crap out of me when I get it back....
Old 06-20-2003, 07:32 AM
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Well I got mine down to a little over #3600, and that's with a iron block,D1SC tuner kit,6 pt. roll bar,9 inch moser,400 turbo set up, and full exhaust. I removed the spare & jack,rear seats & belts,removed A/C,light weight battery,skinnies,installed k-member and lower a arms,removed front bumper support. Future plans are Home Depot carpet,remove rear bumper support,light weight seats,swap my slp bolt on sub frame conn. for a set of much lighter weld on sub frame conn.,and a set of lighter wheels for the back(now use factory 16 inch wheels & et streets) Hope to have it down somewhere around #3500 or less.
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please don't get rid of the bumper supports or door bars. I know some folks are gonna roll their eyes but they maybe saved my life when i hit that wall. yeah I can handle my car like you guys but when clipped by another driver, I had no chance to do ANYTHING. Slow/safe is better than was fast and now dead. Your car is already fast...drop the weight you can that won't affect your safety. People will scream "pu$$y" but I have seen the light now..that was my first crash EVER and I am lucky the bars...seat belt and air bag did their job. Done preaching
cause of what happen to Jery, made me rethink putting a cage in my car. Before i was going to not have one in so i could keep the weight off, but after i heard what happend made me change my mind.
So next year one will be going in (that will be when i get the funds)
Not so much for safty on the track, but safty for crazy drivers on the street.
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strange lightweight brakes knocked off 52lbs for $950, BMR k memeber & upper and lower A arms knock off 42lbs $1323? for the kit. carbon fiber driveshaft knocks off 7.5 lbs for $800
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quick question...

you know how the equation goes for every pound off of a wheel/tire is equal to 3 because it's rotating mass...is that equally true for the driveshaft as well? that would make that 7lbs = 21lbs and i think that might be worth something. what are your thoughts? or am i just soundign stupid

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The wheel/tire calculation is an approximation based on the mass distribution along the radius of the rotating object...being the wheel. The further away from the axis the weight reduction, the greater the effect. Since a DS is not very large (radius-wise) the effect will not be as obvious.

Does that make sense? If not I could throw out some equations and what not.
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Well I got mine down to a little over #3600, and that's with a iron block,D1SC tuner kit,6 pt. roll bar,9 inch moser,400 turbo set up, and full exhaust. I removed the spare & jack,rear seats & belts,removed A/C,light weight battery,skinnies,installed k-member and lower a arms,removed front bumper support. Future plans are Home Depot carpet,remove rear bumper support,light weight seats,swap my slp bolt on sub frame conn. for a set of much lighter weld on sub frame conn.,and a set of lighter wheels for the back(now use factory 16 inch wheels & et streets) Hope to have it down somewhere around #3500 or less.
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Tom is 3600 lbs with you in the car.My car with same setup and weight reduction was 3840 with me in it(me 225).
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The wheel/tire calculation is an approximation based on the mass distribution along the radius of the rotating object...being the wheel. The further away from the axis the weight reduction, the greater the effect. Since a DS is not very large (radius-wise) the effect will not be as obvious.

Does that make sense? If not I could throw out some equations and what not.
makes sense. i figured that's the way it'd be, but was just throwing out ideas. thanks!
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Tom is 3600 lbs with you in the car.My car with same setup and weight reduction was 3840 with me in it(me 225).
Yup that's with me in it, I weigh around #230 myself. I forgot, I do have the strange light weight brakes and I removed the windshield washer fluid jug and removed the abs due to the strange brakes and I installed a line lock at the same time.
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Default Re: 4000# Pig: My Black Gal is PHAT! Let's talk weight reduction

Perhaps I'm confused....If you have a full cage in the car why do you need the side door bars?
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Default Re: 4000# Pig: My Black Gal is PHAT! Let's talk weight reduction

OH no full cage for your car...I see.

I wouldn't lose the safety to run a number.



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