help me to pull zo6 c6
I think if you did a 03 cobra with a KB. You would stil get smoked by a z06. Traction and weight are not good to a cobra. Besides those are awesome cars. But they are kinda sluggy.
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i have two 98 A4 camaro z28 the first one moded by full boltons and TR224-112
with 342 gears and stock TC with BMR K-membr with some removal weight
and its run 11.8@119 , i race with C6Z (boltons) rolling 20 to 0.5 mile it pulled me about
4 cars or less i wass pulled him 1st and 2nd and little of the begining of 3rd gear the he
pulled me very fast look this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WsedhTt-EE
i wanna more FI power to pull it ,i dont like to spray , i love turbo sound or supercharged
what can i do with this two z28?
with 342 gears and stock TC with BMR K-membr with some removal weight
and its run 11.8@119 , i race with C6Z (boltons) rolling 20 to 0.5 mile it pulled me about
4 cars or less i wass pulled him 1st and 2nd and little of the begining of 3rd gear the he
pulled me very fast look this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WsedhTt-EE
i wanna more FI power to pull it ,i dont like to spray , i love turbo sound or supercharged
what can i do with this two z28?
They are not that heavy they just have all the weight over the front end which isnt good. Mine with a solid axle swap and me in it weighs 3680 with me in it. I weigh 180, 3500 pounds isnt that bad. And kb cobras run hard if there setup right expecially with the new bigger kb's they wouldnt get smoked you need to learn about cobras before you make a comment like that. Plus there are a couple guys that have pushed the stock motor into the 8's now thats dam impressive. 03-04 cobra is the car the switched me over to the ford side if it wasnt for that car i wouldnt have switched over.
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From: oxford, MS
Fox body 5.0 Mustang.. $2500
Front mount turbo kit with MP T70... $3000
42lb injectors and calibrated MAF, and lock the timing...$350
good set of slicks.... $200
And put 500hp to the wheels with an otherwise completely stock car and run yourself some 10's. When the tranny breaks(it will break), spend another $1500 on a nice C4. If you blow the engine(should be safe at 500whp if you dont get greedy with the tune), buy yourself another $300 junkyard 5.0
Sorry guys, I just couldn't resist
Or sell the car and do this...
Fox body 5.0 Mustang.. $2500
Front mount turbo kit with MP T70... $3000
42lb injectors and calibrated MAF, and lock the timing...$350
good set of slicks.... $200
And put 500hp to the wheels with an otherwise completely stock car and run yourself some 10's. When the tranny breaks(it will break), spend another $1500 on a nice C4. If you blow the engine(should be safe at 500whp if you dont get greedy with the tune), buy yourself another $300 junkyard 5.0
Sorry guys, I just couldn't resist
Fox body 5.0 Mustang.. $2500
Front mount turbo kit with MP T70... $3000
42lb injectors and calibrated MAF, and lock the timing...$350
good set of slicks.... $200
And put 500hp to the wheels with an otherwise completely stock car and run yourself some 10's. When the tranny breaks(it will break), spend another $1500 on a nice C4. If you blow the engine(should be safe at 500whp if you dont get greedy with the tune), buy yourself another $300 junkyard 5.0
Sorry guys, I just couldn't resist
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i have two 98 A4 camaro z28 the first one moded by full boltons and TR224-112
with 342 gears and stock TC with BMR K-membr with some removal weight
and its run 11.8@119 , i race with C6Z (boltons) rolling 20 to 0.5 mile it pulled me about
4 cars or less i wass pulled him 1st and 2nd and little of the begining of 3rd gear the he
pulled me very fast look this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WsedhTt-EE
i wanna more FI power to pull it ,i dont like to spray , i love turbo sound or supercharged
what can i do with this two z28?
with 342 gears and stock TC with BMR K-membr with some removal weight
and its run 11.8@119 , i race with C6Z (boltons) rolling 20 to 0.5 mile it pulled me about
4 cars or less i wass pulled him 1st and 2nd and little of the begining of 3rd gear the he
pulled me very fast look this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WsedhTt-EE
i wanna more FI power to pull it ,i dont like to spray , i love turbo sound or supercharged
what can i do with this two z28?
If I put a turbo kit like the APS TT kit on my 2000 Camaro Z/28, and took gear out of it (went to a 3.50), I'd go from 10.9 NA to easily 9.50.
You can get into FI for $7k. But there is a lot more that you will find you need along the way. I DD my car in the warmer months and have had a blast with it so far. Unfortunately I have not run across a C6 Z06 that has wanted to play yet so I can't say how I would do. I know I would at least keep up with it, not sure if I could beat it or not. But it would be fun to surprise the hell out of the guy! I did that with a lot of other cars & a bike this fall. That bike was pissed! I stayed right with him. 
It'll get you the power, but like you said, you'd have to be cutting corners, and cutting corners cuts reliability/safety. The Camaro is his daily driver. If he has nothing else to drive (we don't know if he does or not) and something breaks because he bought a cheap part...where does that leave him?
Like the old and boring saying that was used above... Fast, Cheap, Reliable...pick two.
Just get into it slowly. Buy this, buy that, parts here and there at a time to slowly make power or build the car to handle the power first. For someone that can't type a complete sentence or has any idea what correct spelling/grammar is, I think going to ~300rwhp to ~600rwhp in one jump might be somewhat dangerous anyways
Like the old and boring saying that was used above... Fast, Cheap, Reliable...pick two.
Just get into it slowly. Buy this, buy that, parts here and there at a time to slowly make power or build the car to handle the power first. For someone that can't type a complete sentence or has any idea what correct spelling/grammar is, I think going to ~300rwhp to ~600rwhp in one jump might be somewhat dangerous anyways
Lol, I went from 425 rwhp to 845rwhp... it takes a little time getting used to
Sell stock shortblock, pickup a forged 346, pick up nitrous kit (run a 200 shot), run a g5x3 on stock heads, dual patriot extreme springs, hardened pushrods, etc. Get a good clutch or stall, fuel upgrade, good tune, and you should be there. Of course this is from a roll, and your stock tranny and rear wont last TOO long with this setup, but thats what it would take. You could run the shot on a stock shortblock but if you want it to be fairly reliable then id go with one of the sponsors cheap 346/347 forged shortblocks. This should be under or around $7K.
Jeez, these guys ares so doom and gloom about how much setups cost. All it takes is some shopping around for the right deal, and a little knowledge about what parts work best together. I did mine for under 5,500$. Although it did take a few months of shopping around, it did on the cheap and still got great parts. my setup is
D1sc with twin intercoolers(used for 800 miles)
Gt23 lingenfelter cam
60lb molotron injectrors with walbro pump and hot wire kit
comp springs
yank 3400 extreme stall converter
tranny cooler
160 thermostat
hardened pushrods
My car already had full exhaust and a ls6 intake and some suspension when I started so I had a good base to build of, but it can be done. some get ripped on speed parts and say it cant be done for a reasonable price just because they couldnt do it or just didnt have the patience.
D1sc with twin intercoolers(used for 800 miles)
Gt23 lingenfelter cam
60lb molotron injectrors with walbro pump and hot wire kit
comp springs
yank 3400 extreme stall converter
tranny cooler
160 thermostat
hardened pushrods
My car already had full exhaust and a ls6 intake and some suspension when I started so I had a good base to build of, but it can be done. some get ripped on speed parts and say it cant be done for a reasonable price just because they couldnt do it or just didnt have the patience.
8 sec potential, 12 sec slip
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You are correct, you can put together the FI kit and fuel kit for $7000 or under easy without a problem. However, you will be on borrowed time on the 10 bolt and trans if its an automatic (or clutch if its a M6). You are about to find that out yourself 1badsupersport... And thats not even mentioning the shortblock!
Good luck...
Good luck...
You are correct, you can put together the FI kit and fuel kit for $7000 or under easy without a problem. However, you will be on borrowed time on the 10 bolt and trans if its an automatic (or clutch if its a M6). You are about to find that out yourself 1badsupersport... And thats not even mentioning the shortblock!
Good luck...
Good luck...
Sure, anyone can make 700rwhp for $7k. How long is it going to last? How quick are you going to break something and be stuck somewhere?
BOSS APPROVED! Jeez, these guys ares so doom and gloom about how much setups cost. All it takes is some shopping around for the right deal, and a little knowledge about what parts work best together. I did mine for under 5,500$. Although it did take a few months of shopping around, it did on the cheap and still got great parts. my setup is
D1sc with twin intercoolers(used for 800 miles)
Gt23 lingenfelter cam
60lb molotron injectrors with walbro pump and hot wire kit
comp springs
yank 3400 extreme stall converter
tranny cooler
160 thermostat
hardened pushrods
My car already had full exhaust and a ls6 intake and some suspension when I started so I had a good base to build of, but it can be done. some get ripped on speed parts and say it cant be done for a reasonable price just because they couldnt do it or just didnt have the patience.
D1sc with twin intercoolers(used for 800 miles)
Gt23 lingenfelter cam
60lb molotron injectrors with walbro pump and hot wire kit
comp springs
yank 3400 extreme stall converter
tranny cooler
160 thermostat
hardened pushrods
My car already had full exhaust and a ls6 intake and some suspension when I started so I had a good base to build of, but it can be done. some get ripped on speed parts and say it cant be done for a reasonable price just because they couldnt do it or just didnt have the patience.
Wow! I guess us people that have done it the right way are lying about the cost of FI. I suggest that you read the sticky about the real cost of force induction... Hell, here is the link: https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction/567592-real-price-forced-induction.html
FI is expensive but it can be done for slightly less if you're patient and willing to look for good bargains on parts that you'll need for your desired setup.
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Procharger
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=822816
Gen TT Kit
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=782876
APS Turbo kit
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=821456
Some Turbo Kit w/just about everything you’ll need
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=819082
Vortech Supercharger
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=821249
STS Turbo Kit
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=809312
https://ls1tech.com/forums/lsx-parts-sale/828591-sts-turbo-kit-complete-gt-67-ebc-gauges-fmic.html
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Procharger
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=822816
Gen TT Kit
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=782876
APS Turbo kit
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=821456
Some Turbo Kit w/just about everything you’ll need
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=819082
Vortech Supercharger
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=821249
STS Turbo Kit
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=809312
https://ls1tech.com/forums/lsx-parts-sale/828591-sts-turbo-kit-complete-gt-67-ebc-gauges-fmic.html
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Last edited by Zeke34; Dec 12, 2007 at 08:48 AM.
He means daily driver.
So you want to pull a new ZO6? Thats a car weighing in at under 3200lbs and pushing a flywheel 505hp. You realize that, right?
Not to be offensive, but you sound pretty new to the power game.
My car is making about 506 flywheel and I couldn't pull one. You are definitely going to need forced induction on your car. You could do STS turbo system and 4.10s, but how streetable will that be? I did see one LS1 Camaro pulling around 480rwhp with the STS setup.
It would be much easier to set your sights on a C6. I think that would easily be within the pulling range if you do intake, exhaust, cam, and 4.10s.
(Or you could get an 03 Cobra and throw a Kenne Bell on it...I think you would pull it then!
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So you want to pull a new ZO6? Thats a car weighing in at under 3200lbs and pushing a flywheel 505hp. You realize that, right?
Not to be offensive, but you sound pretty new to the power game.
My car is making about 506 flywheel and I couldn't pull one. You are definitely going to need forced induction on your car. You could do STS turbo system and 4.10s, but how streetable will that be? I did see one LS1 Camaro pulling around 480rwhp with the STS setup.
It would be much easier to set your sights on a C6. I think that would easily be within the pulling range if you do intake, exhaust, cam, and 4.10s.
(Or you could get an 03 Cobra and throw a Kenne Bell on it...I think you would pull it then!
)No he wouldnt....My buddy has a C6 Z06 that just had a tune at the time and he ran another friends 630rwhp 03 KB cobra on the highway 3 times and everytime, it was a dead even race.
Also, if he ever went turbocharged...he DOESNT want 4:10's. He wants a LOWER gear ratio....it puts more load on the motor = Harder pull, quicker spool...for example...he would want 3.23's over 4.10's anyday.....4.10's would actually slow him down if hes turbocharged...supercharged is the other way around.
You definitely don't want to overgear a turbo or supercharger combination. A good rule of thumb is that you shouldn't go more than 3.73 with a supercharger, and you might want to think about a 3.42/3.55/3.50 for a turbo but turbo combos all differ alot and gear choice is much more up in the air. But most turbo combos are done a lot lower rpm than a blower setup.
Wow! I guess us people that have done it the right way are lying about the cost of FI. I suggest that you read the sticky about the real cost of force induction... Hell, here is the link: https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=567592
