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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 07:25 PM
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Even though it uses 2x as much I still think its cheaper, I think my dad paid around $200 for a barrel of methanol and he got a quote of $600+ for race gas.
I can get vp for 180. u are right, once u get converted, its alittle cheaper.
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 09:28 PM
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I thought about this once. 347ci, 11.5:1, 91mm turbo, and run it on alcohol. It would be definate race only setup. Very limited street time. I like the idea. I am always up for something differnt. I see my new shop car taking a different turn once again. I have some research to do.

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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 10:04 PM
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Ha! That car looks and sounds like a Turd.....
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Josh @ KYTP
.....It would be definate race only my setup. Very limited street time. I like the idea.....
Yeah to say that mileage sucks with alchy would be an understatement. Could make some AWESOME power though.

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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 12:01 AM
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If I decide to go the alky route my version of street will be as follows:

"Unload car of trailor. Drive as short a distance as possibe to spot to race. Do burnout. Race car. Collect or Pay $$$$. Drive back to trailor. Load car back on trailor."

I do not condone illeagal street races....
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 1INSANEGTO
Well I now have a 1967 Camaro I got by default full race car with 12 point cage and all. I want to start building a collection of parts this year.

I know alot of people are going higher comperssion and alcohol so I wanted to give it a shot on a filled Iron block.

Can the Iron block be drilled for 1/2 studs?
By default, do you mean wrecked a buddie's car and had to buy it? Please just build ANYTHING and race it before starting another of these threads. Lots of us are not hardcore racers and don't look down on anybody (except people who spend years on the internet talking about builds that never happen). Please only respond when ANYTHING you have runs and has track times.
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 01:29 AM
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i say build it and let us all know how its gose. im pretty sure it will be fast!

i think street tuna has tried using alky on one of his TT GTOs. mioght be worth having a word.

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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by MustangBilly
Ha! That car looks and sounds like a Turd.....
Lol. Guys a friend of mine Billy the owner of the 13.5:1 compression car is above.
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by gametech
By default, do you mean wrecked a buddie's car and had to buy it? Please just build ANYTHING and race it before starting another of these threads. Lots of us are not hardcore racers and don't look down on anybody (except people who spend years on the internet talking about builds that never happen). Please only respond when ANYTHING you have runs and has track times.
I am seeking information that will benefit all partys so if you dont have any input see the door *******.
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by gametech
By default, do you mean wrecked a buddie's car and had to buy it? Please just build ANYTHING and race it before starting another of these threads. Lots of us are not hardcore racers and don't look down on anybody (except people who spend years on the internet talking about builds that never happen). Please only respond when ANYTHING you have runs and has track times.
Not sure but i thought this was Ls1Tech! If the guy is researching an idea he has, GET OFF HIS NUTZZ!!
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 08:54 AM
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Insano,

13:5:1 was my choice not knowing when I went this route and on TM.Com,10 outa 11 quoted it would not work and I didn't se why not and did what I wanted too do anyways..I knew the theory had been tried bye someone at a time or another somewhere in the world but apparently no one says much till your doing it then they come out of the wood work,lol

2 days later I got a call from Patrick BarnHill/Bill Lutz saying go for it and soon they were going too up there compression in there builds also and only prob they seen as a guy mentioned in this thread already was spark...I said o.k. and when I get too that point then I'll upgrade if needed...

power seems too be coming in too hard/too quik from 52-6200 and a/f needs adjusting do too leaning out a little then I'll do some more testing on the rollers...

alcohol does burn about 1.7 x as much as gasoline but still is cheaper at $227 Drum vs 116@$479 and Max Nos @ $573 Drum...
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 09:04 AM
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What fix is used to solve the spark issue? I would not think there would be a issue till about 1500Hp+

I am sure this post will peak lots of interest as technology comes together. High compression and alcohol might be the next big thing.

I am really interested to see if you can take a alum block fill it with blockfiller have all the machine work done. Keep 346ci with 14.5:1 compression run alcohol and see the outcome spooling a 106MM turbo.

Really do not know till you try it.

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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 09:31 AM
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Hotter ignition system and smaller spark plug gaps help here. Boosted, high compression alky motors have been with us since the 60's and earlier. For some reason the information is not so easy flowing and the net can make it worse since so many people chime in who heard there information from a friend of a friend, etc. 7:1 on a gas motor is analogous to an 11:1 alcohol engine.
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 09:33 AM
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You guys heard of Eric Dillard...Tim Lynch...and a company called Proline? They've been running high compression/alky motors for a few years now. Its nothing new.
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by TT632
Hotter ignition system and smaller spark plug gaps help here. Boosted, high compression alky motors have been with us since the 60's and earlier. For some reason the information is not so easy flowing and the net can make it worse since so many people chime in who heard there information from a friend of a friend, etc. 7:1 on a gas motor is analogous to an 11:1 alcohol engine.
100% Agree......
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 09:57 AM
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Lynch's motor is on gas
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 10:04 AM
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Dillard switch too alky in sept/oct 2007....he went 6.57@232 i believe...could be wrong though...

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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MustangBilly
Insano,

13:5:1 was my choice not knowing when I went this route and on TM.Com,10 outa 11 quoted it would not work and I didn't se why not and did what I wanted too do anyways..I knew the theory had been tried bye someone at a time or another somewhere in the world but apparently no one says much till your doing it then they come out of the wood work,lol....
Man don't ya know it can't be done. That is until someone like yourself comes along and does it!!! A dream is only a dream until you make it a reality.

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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 08:02 PM
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I've been thinking about a set up like this for a while, but kind of gave up on it due to what Josh was talking about streetability wise. I may still do it, so continue on with the relevant information!
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 08:37 PM
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Thats just it. Alky is for race cars. I just gotta decide weather or not I want a race car or street strip car.
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