RW99

FYI, presto, 50% methanol in water is still flammable. Mix some up and put it in a small bowl outdoors... secure the dog. Drop a match in the bowl and it will fizzle out... but wave your hand over the bowl and you'll feel the heat from the invisible flames. Extinguish by covering with a pot or something else non-flammable. Be careful, please, if you actually test this...

Given the fact that I'm already plumbing a bunch of fuel at pressure under my hood, I'm not too worried about using 100% methanol in my alcohol tank.

presto_z

iTrader: (12)

this a direct quote written on my snow performance methanol pump
anything over a 50/50 mix voids the warranty on the pump too

from my understanding a 50/50 mix is a combustible not a flammable, any thing over 50% is a flammable.. there is a difference between the two

just because something will burn doesn't mean its flammable..

ALL FLAMMABLES ARE COMBUSTIBLES BUT NOT ALL COMBUSTIBLES ARE FLAMMABLE

im not trying to argue that a 50/50 mix is better then a 100% mix, im just letting people know what snow performance recommends

presto_z

iTrader: (12)

most -20 windshield washer fluid is 49% methanol 50% water and 1%detergent.. will that catch fire??

Old Geezer

iTrader: (3)

"anything over a 50/50 mix voids the warranty on the pump too."
Likely, because the seals are not compatible...

kbracing96

iTrader: (25)

I pored some on the ground and lit it, it will burn

RW99

Thanks for shouting, we all appreciate that.

So, with the Snow kits, the question is moot.

Another reason to use Alkycontrol instead, in my book.

presto_z

iTrader: (12)

it wasnt meant to be shouting.. geeze you people need to calm down and relax a bit

crashly

100 % meth
12.2 gal per minute pump
engine drinks up tp 6 gal per minute on 191 mph pass....

cheers
ash

A_VAS

iTrader: (16)

My Snow Performance pump says no such thing on it...the instructions mention you can run 100% alcohol if desired. Maybe you got an older pump?
They use a Shurflo now which seems to be the same as most kits.

presto_z

iTrader: (12)

really?? mine does


its kinda hard to read because my camera sucks, but you can easily make it out if you you read my quote

mine is a shurflo pump aswell

u have a pic of yours?

GNXClone

iTrader: (7)

I installed my alky kit this weekend, filled it with water only for the intial test. Still had some detonation and it felt slower too.

Today I switched to 70% denatured alcohol / 30% water. Detonation is completely gone. Advanced the timing 5 degrees, still no detonation! It hauls ***** now!

APS TT @ 8 PSI, 11:1 compression stock LS2

A_VAS

iTrader: (16)

I'll get a pic when I crawl under the front end again...but it's too damn cold out right now!

presto_z

iTrader: (12)

i looked at some pics on snowperformance.net and i didnt see any warning labels on the pumps they pictured, i guess i have a different model or something.. hmmm

Websy21

iTrader: (34)

Just ran out to the garage and looked at mine it doesn't have that label on it either. Basically has snow performance and water/methol injection is it. Either way doesn't really matter to me I think I am going to run 50/50 but won't be spraying much in my setup anyways.

ninetres

iTrader: (35)

FYI--I see a lot of mention of "shurflo" pumps, as if they are all the same. Shurflo makes 100's of different pumps that all look very similar. They are one of the largest pump manufactures for farm equipment.

ls1wannabe

iTrader: (2)

i run -20 washer , usually does the trick for me. If i want a better mix i add some heet

AIS

Your right. Shurflo does make numerous pumps which all look the same. Most of the water methanol companies are now using the same pump which comes upgraded with all EPDM seals and valves. However, some are still using the Viton seals, which are not compatible for use with 100% methanol.

You'll also notice many of the other companies pumps are left unpainted. Our pumps are actually painted black which is extra. While this is really only a minor detail. This does provide some added protection to the outside of the pump. When exposed to the outdoor elements the body will rust. Additionally, it looks much nicer then a unpainted pump.

AIS

Check with this manufacture as their older pumps came with Viton seals which can only handle 50/50 mix. You may have an older pump. If so do not run a mixture over 50/50 water methanol. If you stay with a 50/50 mix you will be just fine.

AIS

Actually, -20 below zero washer fluids are only 30% methanol. We researched over 15 different brands and they wer all with in 2% of each other. In order to achieve that temperature rating they add approx. 30% methanol with 1-2% ethylene glycol with some brands.

JMBLOWNWS6

iTrader: (17)

I am getting ready to test the M3 meth from VP. Will post results.

http://www.vpracingfuels.com/article...54263.67811343