View Poll Results: how much water do you run with your meth injection?
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Meth water mix
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FYI, presto, 50% methanol in water is still flammable. Mix some up and put it in a small bowl outdoors... secure the dog. Drop a match in the bowl and it will fizzle out... but wave your hand over the bowl and you'll feel the heat from the invisible flames. Extinguish by covering with a pot or something else non-flammable. Be careful, please, if you actually test this...
Given the fact that I'm already plumbing a bunch of fuel at pressure under my hood, I'm not too worried about using 100% methanol in my alcohol tank.
Given the fact that I'm already plumbing a bunch of fuel at pressure under my hood, I'm not too worried about using 100% methanol in my alcohol tank.
this a direct quote written on my snow performance methanol pump
anything over a 50/50 mix voids the warranty on the pump too
from my understanding a 50/50 mix is a combustible not a flammable, any thing over 50% is a flammable.. there is a difference between the two
just because something will burn doesn't mean its flammable..
ALL FLAMMABLES ARE COMBUSTIBLES BUT NOT ALL COMBUSTIBLES ARE FLAMMABLE
im not trying to argue that a 50/50 mix is better then a 100% mix, im just letting people know what snow performance recommends
Originally Posted by snowperformance
DO NOT PUMP FLAMMABLE LIQUIDS. DO NOT PUMP MORE THEN 50/50 MIX OF ALCOHOL AND WATER MORE THAN 50% ALCOHOL MIX IS A FLAMMABLE LIQUID
from my understanding a 50/50 mix is a combustible not a flammable, any thing over 50% is a flammable.. there is a difference between the two
just because something will burn doesn't mean its flammable..
ALL FLAMMABLES ARE COMBUSTIBLES BUT NOT ALL COMBUSTIBLES ARE FLAMMABLE
im not trying to argue that a 50/50 mix is better then a 100% mix, im just letting people know what snow performance recommends
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ALL FLAMMABLES ARE COMBUSTIBLES BUT NOT ALL COMBUSTIBLES ARE FLAMMABLE
So, with the Snow kits, the question is moot.
Another reason to use Alkycontrol instead, in my book.
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this a direct quote written on my snow performance methanol pump
anything over a 50/50 mix voids the warranty on the pump too
from my understanding a 50/50 mix is a combustible not a flammable, any thing over 50% is a flammable.. there is a difference between the two
just because something will burn doesn't mean its flammable..
ALL FLAMMABLES ARE COMBUSTIBLES BUT NOT ALL COMBUSTIBLES ARE FLAMMABLE
im not trying to argue that a 50/50 mix is better then a 100% mix, im just letting people know what snow performance recommends
anything over a 50/50 mix voids the warranty on the pump too
from my understanding a 50/50 mix is a combustible not a flammable, any thing over 50% is a flammable.. there is a difference between the two
just because something will burn doesn't mean its flammable..
ALL FLAMMABLES ARE COMBUSTIBLES BUT NOT ALL COMBUSTIBLES ARE FLAMMABLE
im not trying to argue that a 50/50 mix is better then a 100% mix, im just letting people know what snow performance recommends
My Snow Performance pump says no such thing on it...the instructions mention you can run 100% alcohol if desired. Maybe you got an older pump?
They use a Shurflo now which seems to be the same as most kits.
really?? mine does
its kinda hard to read because my camera sucks, but you can easily make it out if you you read my quote
mine is a shurflo pump aswell
u have a pic of yours?
Originally Posted by snowperformance
DO NOT PUMP FLAMMABLE LIQUIDS. DO NOT PUMP MORE THEN 50/50 MIX OF ALCOHOL AND WATER MORE THAN 50% ALCOHOL MIX IS A FLAMMABLE LIQUID
mine is a shurflo pump aswell
u have a pic of yours?
I installed my alky kit this weekend, filled it with water only for the intial test. Still had some detonation and it felt slower too.
Today I switched to 70% denatured alcohol / 30% water. Detonation is completely gone. Advanced the timing 5 degrees, still no detonation! It hauls ***** now!
APS TT @ 8 PSI, 11:1 compression stock LS2
Today I switched to 70% denatured alcohol / 30% water. Detonation is completely gone. Advanced the timing 5 degrees, still no detonation! It hauls ***** now!
APS TT @ 8 PSI, 11:1 compression stock LS2
Just ran out to the garage and looked at mine it doesn't have that label on it either. Basically has snow performance and water/methol injection is it. Either way doesn't really matter to me I think I am going to run 50/50 but won't be spraying much in my setup anyways.
FYI--I see a lot of mention of "shurflo" pumps, as if they are all the same. Shurflo makes 100's of different pumps that all look very similar. They are one of the largest pump manufactures for farm equipment.
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You'll also notice many of the other companies pumps are left unpainted. Our pumps are actually painted black which is extra. While this is really only a minor detail. This does provide some added protection to the outside of the pump. When exposed to the outdoor elements the body will rust. Additionally, it looks much nicer then a unpainted pump.
Last edited by AIS; Mar 13, 2008 at 10:44 AM.
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Check with this manufacture as their older pumps came with Viton seals which can only handle 50/50 mix. You may have an older pump. If so do not run a mixture over 50/50 water methanol. If you stay with a 50/50 mix you will be just fine.
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Actually, -20 below zero washer fluids are only 30% methanol. We researched over 15 different brands and they wer all with in 2% of each other. In order to achieve that temperature rating they add approx. 30% methanol with 1-2% ethylene glycol with some brands.
I am getting ready to test the M3 meth from VP. Will post results.
http://www.vpracingfuels.com/article...54263.67811343
http://www.vpracingfuels.com/article...54263.67811343