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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by locodave46
Hi, Never even thought of windshield washer fluid to suggest to my son. Interesting post. He bought a 55 gallon drum, less expensive that way. Of the methonol & runs it straight, no water added. He did get a few jets with the kit, started out with what was recomended. A smaller jet. Went to a size larger one. Just guessing here. If methonol is required and your using washer fluid. Is anyone being penny wise & pound foolish. Or penny wise & being pound foolish? Shure would hate to repair an engine on saving a few bucks where you skimped. Dave
Not sure if I said it earlier in this thread, or if it was another one, but I have ran 30-40 gallons of strait WWF though my motor and has never hurt it. I run a single M15 nozzle and a progressive kit. One thing about running strait meth though is you can never run to much, you just pull fuel to keep AFR in check. I go both way,
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 08:30 AM
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Has anyone thought of dropping ice cubes in their meth tank to drop the temps, or even chilling their meth jug? Just something I'm curious about, hell if you're spraying an intercooler with CO2, why not spray the meth tank too?
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 08:57 AM
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the 50/50 mix is what the farthers of waterinjection ran (german ww2 fighterplanes) Boost, nitrous and MW50 as they called it... i am sure they tested all possible combos, and when you can stand on the shoulders of great engineers why wouldnt you??

btw, i have a couple of buddies running the washer fluid as well, and it works awesome, is cheap, abundantly available, non corrosive and relatively non toxtc... thats what i would do...
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 12:33 AM
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Has anyone thought of dropping ice cubes in their meth tank to drop the temps
That doesn't sound like a good idea to me. How would you keep track of how many ice cubes you have dropped in there. Your mixture of meth/water will be thrown off. I personaly just do 100% meth. Seems to work for me so far..18.4 lbs of boost on a 402 with methanol injection and 93 pump gas.
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Old May 12, 2009 | 12:03 PM
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What about keeping your meth on ice? That way it's chemically and physically cooling the intake charge.
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Old May 12, 2009 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by shawn_c992001
What about keeping your meth on ice? That way it's chemically and physically cooling the intake charge.
You probably are better off using Dry Ice......
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Old May 28, 2009 | 07:20 PM
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50/50 and it does the trick... that is what most turners recommend.
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Old Aug 1, 2009 | 02:53 PM
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where is the best place to get a drum of m1 from im in the chicago subburbs.
thanks ken
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Originally Posted by RW99
I'm a biochemist, but that's not really close enough, is it?

I'm a little surprised that nobody's ever tried them back-to-back on the dyno... Maybe I'll give it a try the next time the car is strapped down... although with the amount that I spray, I wonder if I might go a little bit lean.
well, this guy has done just that. back to back dyno test, and guess what, DISTILLED WATER won by a landslide

http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...9&postcount=37

oh, by the way, he runs 4.80s at 140mph on pump gas, injecting distilled water. btw, he is using two 625ml nozzles (the biggest snow sells). per other experts, you would have to use 6-8 nozzles the same size with pure meth to get a meaningful improvement in performance(and then that jacks up your AF ratios)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xaMU6r3XSc
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 86cutlass350
where is the best place to get a drum of m1 from im in the chicago subburbs.
thanks ken
i just got a 5 gallon drum from winners circle in joliet, I know a-team in tinley stocks it also.
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 08:21 AM
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According to Turbochargers by Hugh MacInnes, he says it was tested and proven that increasing the mixture past 50/50 was of no significant improvement in 1971. Since Methanol is volatile and prone to preignition, it is undesireable past a 50/50 mix.
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 08:37 AM
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ive been runnig 100% meth in my car. i have not used anything else but i might try windshield washer fluid next. i see 40deg drop when i use it how about the rest of you?
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by GodSpeedGTA
According to Turbochargers by Hugh MacInnes, he says it was tested and proven that increasing the mixture past 50/50 was of no significant improvement in 1971. Since Methanol is volatile and prone to preignition, it is undesireable past a 50/50 mix.
Maybe you should stick to more resent publications... Meth has an Octane rating of some where around 110, and is NOT prone to preignition , it actually burns slower, stabilizing pump gas's burn rate.
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 12:46 PM
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I'll try to stick to more reCent publications next time. I didn't realize pulling information from a published source was more ignorant (apparently) than people just spouting off opinions (for the most part).

Just thought I would add some info from a text source since I didn't see any so far.
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by kbracing96
Maybe you should stick to more resent publications... Meth has an Octane rating of some where around 110, and is NOT prone to preignition , it actually burns slower, stabilizing pump gas's burn rate.
I'm pretty sure it doesn't burn slower than water
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