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STS systems Jump on in here! Well, ive posted on here before about what systems you like and see your hp/tq gains etc. etc.. but i havent gotten much response to any systems. Well my dad contacted STS to see what this place is really about... I didnt get to hear much about them gtom my dad, so i emailed STS myself and got instant response and then a direct call the next day! so excellent customer service! The next thing was, i told them my goals on the car that i wanted to hit 500whp to start and then move my way up. Well right there and then he made a write up with what needs to be included.
Kit for f body
Tuning optional (Predator and MSD (8)inj)
Gt67 upgrade (730chp)
Custom STS tune with Predator Tuner to keep
Blow Off Valve
Boost Controller
Gauges
That is suppose to push 530whp and this setup can be pushed up to 800whp or more depending on my setup. which would be a 408 in the near future.
ANYWAYS.. I want to hear what you like and what you dislike about this kit so i can bring it up to STS when i speak with them tomorrow. If there are any problems with the kits i would like them to be explained so please jump in here and spill the beans!
Kit for f body
Tuning optional (Predator and MSD (8)inj)
Gt67 upgrade (730chp)
Custom STS tune with Predator Tuner to keep
Blow Off Valve
Boost Controller
Gauges
That is suppose to push 530whp and this setup can be pushed up to 800whp or more depending on my setup. which would be a 408 in the near future.
ANYWAYS.. I want to hear what you like and what you dislike about this kit so i can bring it up to STS when i speak with them tomorrow. If there are any problems with the kits i would like them to be explained so please jump in here and spill the beans!
If you plan on getting a 408 built for boost soon I would think about a t-76 or something around that size.
Tuning is never optional, you run boost and make 500hp on a stock motor you better hope it is tuned and tuned right or it'll end up being a pile of broken parts.
Also don't forget about fuel injectors and a larger fuel pump.
It all adds up, find someone with a kit and find out everything they had to get, a kit costs one thing, what you end up buying and spending is a whole new story.
Tuning is never optional, you run boost and make 500hp on a stock motor you better hope it is tuned and tuned right or it'll end up being a pile of broken parts.
Also don't forget about fuel injectors and a larger fuel pump.
It all adds up, find someone with a kit and find out everything they had to get, a kit costs one thing, what you end up buying and spending is a whole new story.
sure, STS has great customer service if you are going to buy a kit from them, but when you actually buy it that customer service disappears....
also, tuning is not optional, more like mandatory. Dont go with their tune either, have someone with a dyno tune it for you.
you left out an intercooler as well, which they probably didnt tell you about. you need one regardless.
If you are going to get an sts kit, go with one from one of the sponsors that have them more complete. and do lots of research!
also, tuning is not optional, more like mandatory. Dont go with their tune either, have someone with a dyno tune it for you.
you left out an intercooler as well, which they probably didnt tell you about. you need one regardless.
If you are going to get an sts kit, go with one from one of the sponsors that have them more complete. and do lots of research!
Roornz28, I see you have an STS kit. What do you think of it? Why dont they mention the Intercooler...? I didnt even think of that for some reason so thanks! What about the Meth kit? wouldnt that take the place of the intercooler? Do you mind messaging me a full list of what you have for your kit? Keep the info coming, I appreciate it!
i love my system never had any problems with it(knock on wood) but all in all its a good system everyone around my area knows me as the camaro with the rear mount and they all say my freinds was telling me about you...so i dont have anything bad to say but that i love it...no need for meth intercooler pipes from trt turbo and ebay intercooler or just get the whole kit from trt..... check the sig for all parts
Quick01SS, awesome! nice to hear about the system, and your sig. helps me out in terms of what to get done. so thanks. Curious to why your pushing 524whp on 10psi... when they state that you can hit 530whp on 8psi on stock motor...
Roornz28, I see you have an STS kit. What do you think of it? Why dont they mention the Intercooler...? I didnt even think of that for some reason so thanks! What about the Meth kit? wouldnt that take the place of the intercooler? Do you mind messaging me a full list of what you have for your kit? Keep the info coming, I appreciate it!
i like my sts kit as well, although there are some ups and downs with it. The meth kit will work instead of an intercooler, but its like nitrous and needs to be refilled every so often. With the intercooler, you intake temps will never be to far above the ambient air temp outside.
There is a full list of my mods in the car domain link in my sig. I also agree with quick01, go with TRT to get the intercooler pipes, or even just buy the whole kit from them. Their kits will give you everything you need to get started.
hey quick01ss, do you like your bassani Y? any pics?
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+1 on mandatory tuning and if all possible dyno tuning.
IMO I wouldn't purchase the kit directly from STS b/c it will end up costing you a little more. Check out the GP's and possibly a used kit from another member.
Like stated before there are some areas for improvements to the kit like PCV but what kit doesn't need a improvement here or there?
Extras that are not included with the kit that will be needed are larger injectors, larger fuel pump, intercooler(highly recc.), wideband o2(possibly one for ea. bank), DEI exhaust wrap for hot side piping w/silicone spray(highly recc.), either gut your cats. or get some test pipes welded/bolted in(IMO I wouldn't take the chance of having a piece of the cat. coming off and damaging the turbo!), if you don't have already an aftermarket y-pipe to eliminate the restricted area of the OE pipe.
IMO I wouldn't purchase the kit directly from STS b/c it will end up costing you a little more. Check out the GP's and possibly a used kit from another member.
Like stated before there are some areas for improvements to the kit like PCV but what kit doesn't need a improvement here or there?
Extras that are not included with the kit that will be needed are larger injectors, larger fuel pump, intercooler(highly recc.), wideband o2(possibly one for ea. bank), DEI exhaust wrap for hot side piping w/silicone spray(highly recc.), either gut your cats. or get some test pipes welded/bolted in(IMO I wouldn't take the chance of having a piece of the cat. coming off and damaging the turbo!), if you don't have already an aftermarket y-pipe to eliminate the restricted area of the OE pipe.
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Verdad Gallardo Thanks for the Info. What is the average H/TQ gains for these systems?? im pretty much seeing around 450whp-500whp and the TQ varies. I like the TRT performance, they have the stage 4 kit that is right in my ball park. i wish they could tell you a rough HP estimate per stage. RoornZ28... in the pics of your car it looks like that kit is almost hitting the ground! that scares me a tad.. one nasty bump and theres a nice dent in the turbo or even worse.. off it goes!
just to give you some idea on power levels made. i have a forged 347 with 9psi and an intercooler im pushing 500rwhp through an A4. an M6 would probably be around 525rwhp. there are a ton of good threads to follow with this kit . look up Zombies threads, he wrote an essay on how to make the rear mount kit work, it will save you a ton of time and money if you follow his advice. i love my kit, i enjoy having something different and not following the crowd. im shocked no one has come on here yet and bashed the kit, there are alot of rear mount haters so get some thick skin. then show them the *** of your car 
not likely.... the turbo sits around the same height as my rear end, and even then there is still room for it to go up higher. i would have to drag the rear end first in order to even touch the turbo. The back wheels keep it plenty high enough.
It looks low because i am lowered with a pro-kit, and i haven't had any problems at all with the turbo. The only thing i have scraped on speed bumps a few times is the charge pipe by the drivers side tire.
be prepare to have some extra cash on hand......i purchased my straight through sts, had problems with the dyno around 4500-4700 it would just stop making power....so i upgraded valvesprings and still the same thing this is only at 5lbs of boost, but on the street it pulled like a **** havent tooken it to the track yet....gotta get the turbo tucked up some more cuz it sits low and my car was low to begin with....but i love that sound
8psi ?? they say 530 but i didnt see that at 8 at 7 i saw 450 on both ends but what 02 hawk is saying at 4500-4700 your line on the dyno graph drops but dont be scared if it does it doesnt mean anything my car pulls and then keeps pulling until i shift
i like my sts kit as well, although there are some ups and downs with it. The meth kit will work instead of an intercooler, but its like nitrous and needs to be refilled every so often. With the intercooler, you intake temps will never be to far above the ambient air temp outside.
There is a full list of my mods in the car domain link in my sig. I also agree with quick01, go with TRT to get the intercooler pipes, or even just buy the whole kit from them. Their kits will give you everything you need to get started.
hey quick01ss, do you like your bassani Y? any pics?
There is a full list of my mods in the car domain link in my sig. I also agree with quick01, go with TRT to get the intercooler pipes, or even just buy the whole kit from them. Their kits will give you everything you need to get started.
hey quick01ss, do you like your bassani Y? any pics?
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I'd recommend going to someone like TRT that has a package deal vs STS directly. My $0.02; tuning is a freakin necessity, not optional. FMIC is a necessity. I had inlet temps hitting over 135 degrees before adding the front mount intercooler. High volume fuel pump + bigger injectors are a necessity. Hardened pushrods are a necessity. A WB A/F gauge is a necessity.
The STS kit overall is decent, but as you see from above it leaves out a LOT of things you need. TRT includes them, such as springs, high volume fuel pump, etc, etc. Overall plan on spending $6-7K and doing some mod work on top of that. I just finished rewiring the ball of a$$ that STS calls a wiring harness into something that's clean and reliable.
Once all the "bugs" are worked out and the things added that STS neglected to address, it works great. I scare the $hit out of imports, smoke C6 vettes, get evil stares from old people in my neighborhood that think I'm driving Satans chariot, and have positive comments from other gearheads every time I drive. Haven't dynoed mine yet on the current setup, but it's around the 500RWHP mark
BTW, once all is added up, the Procharger kit from EPP or the Vortech aftercooled kit are about the same price. For me, I like turbo whine.....but to each his own
The STS kit overall is decent, but as you see from above it leaves out a LOT of things you need. TRT includes them, such as springs, high volume fuel pump, etc, etc. Overall plan on spending $6-7K and doing some mod work on top of that. I just finished rewiring the ball of a$$ that STS calls a wiring harness into something that's clean and reliable.
Once all the "bugs" are worked out and the things added that STS neglected to address, it works great. I scare the $hit out of imports, smoke C6 vettes, get evil stares from old people in my neighborhood that think I'm driving Satans chariot, and have positive comments from other gearheads every time I drive. Haven't dynoed mine yet on the current setup, but it's around the 500RWHP mark
BTW, once all is added up, the Procharger kit from EPP or the Vortech aftercooled kit are about the same price. For me, I like turbo whine.....but to each his own
They actually talked me out of buying some parts from them, instead they e-mailed me a list of things to do to fix the problem for free! If thats not customer service I dont know what is....
Then your dealing with the wrong people! I have GREAT customer service with STS, Freddy the Texas rep helps me out with whatever I need anytime I call.
They actually talked me out of buying some parts from them, instead they e-mailed me a list of things to do to fix the problem for free! If thats not customer service I dont know what is....
They actually talked me out of buying some parts from them, instead they e-mailed me a list of things to do to fix the problem for free! If thats not customer service I dont know what is....
well the california rep sucks ***. I called them every day for 2 weeks and left messages everytime and never got a call back..... the guy was never even there to answer the phone every time i called. I ended up having a defective turbo and a bad oil check valve. If it wasnt for Synergy Motorsports, the shop that tuned my car, i would have been **** out of luck with sts. That was my experience with their "customer service", and i have heard of others that have had good luck with them, but they didnt help me out one bit.
Well, ive posted on here before about what systems you like and see your hp/tq gains etc. etc.. but i havent gotten much response to any systems. Well my dad contacted STS to see what this place is really about... I didnt get to hear much about them gtom my dad, so i emailed STS myself and got instant response and then a direct call the next day! so excellent customer service! The next thing was, i told them my goals on the car that i wanted to hit 500whp to start and then move my way up. Well right there and then he made a write up with what needs to be included.
Kit for f body
Tuning optional (Predator and MSD (8)inj)
Gt67 upgrade (730chp)
Custom STS tune with Predator Tuner to keep
Blow Off Valve
Boost Controller
Gauges
That is suppose to push 530whp and this setup can be pushed up to 800whp or more depending on my setup. which would be a 408 in the near future.
ANYWAYS.. I want to hear what you like and what you dislike about this kit so i can bring it up to STS when i speak with them tomorrow. If there are any problems with the kits i would like them to be explained so please jump in here and spill the beans!
Kit for f body
Tuning optional (Predator and MSD (8)inj)
Gt67 upgrade (730chp)
Custom STS tune with Predator Tuner to keep
Blow Off Valve
Boost Controller
Gauges
That is suppose to push 530whp and this setup can be pushed up to 800whp or more depending on my setup. which would be a 408 in the near future.
ANYWAYS.. I want to hear what you like and what you dislike about this kit so i can bring it up to STS when i speak with them tomorrow. If there are any problems with the kits i would like them to be explained so please jump in here and spill the beans!
i personally like the rear mount. and I will be finishing my Intercooler install soon.
excellent customer service...they must have changed or the times must have changed... LOL
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From: Lee's Summit, MO
I have a question about this system...
Are '98 injectors sufficient enough to handle 5psi of boost? At this psi is an intercooler required? What will happen if I run without one? What intercooler do you recommend using and can I get a link to it? Are LS6 valve springs sufficient enough at 5psi? I want to build this this with what is necessary...
What is required and what is recommended?
Thankyou.
Are '98 injectors sufficient enough to handle 5psi of boost? At this psi is an intercooler required? What will happen if I run without one? What intercooler do you recommend using and can I get a link to it? Are LS6 valve springs sufficient enough at 5psi? I want to build this this with what is necessary...
What is required and what is recommended?
Thankyou.