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AFR or ETP for the APS setup ?

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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 07:23 AM
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Default AFR or ETP for the APS setup ?

my buddy has a TT APS setup in his LS1 with piston and cam only and he want a 700+ rwhp so which heads is better AFR or ETP and what is the best size for the intake and exhaust ?
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 07:32 AM
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Man..................That's like saying here are two beautiful women, which do you want? The red head or the blond. Both are fine choices and you can't go wrong with either.

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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 07:36 AM
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Stock ones.
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 07:38 AM
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I am using AFR 225's on a 346" D1SC @ 15.5#'s, car is making 805 rwhp SAE.
Pretty hard to beat. See post by Tony Mamo (AFR)
"Boosted 346" cracks 800 rwhp".
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/897012-boosted-346-w-afr-225-s-cracks-800-rwhp.html

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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 08:14 AM
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ETP I'm running 245s
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 08:16 AM
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Im looking for an answer as well...im torn between the two! AFR's have made some nice numbers on APS kits
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 08:31 AM
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Life is tough, I vote stock 241's
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 08:44 AM
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My vote is for the AFR's, no need to over kill the top end with FI.
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I went with afr ,thicker deck supposed to be better for higher boost. Don't plan to go past 20psi ever but a bit of insurance maybe. Also seen lots of fast running boosted cars running the same afr heads. And seen good results on aps test mule with the afr 225s. And afr has links on their website to two big turbo builds shooting for 1000 engine hp both using afr 225s.
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 04:09 PM
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I voted for the ETP's, but they have ended up costing more than I originally imagined. The swipe pattern with the stock rockers and ETP pedestall was off, and the use of shims didn't seem to help much. I had to order the Crower rocker arms made for ETP heads, but had to use valve cover spacers to raise the valvecovers, and now will have to clearance a couple of the rocker arms, or take a belt sander to the head.
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You can't go wrong either way. I opted for ETP's when the right deal came along.
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My AFR have been keeping me happy.
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im running 317 with springs
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If you want to make some serious power, these flow 240-260 on the exh

https://ls1tech.com/forums/lsx-parts-sale/899912-new-box-all-pro-race-prepped-heads.html
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I'm going with the Patriot 6.0 heads. I'm not made of money...Yet
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Originally Posted by Black_Tiger
my buddy has a TT APS setup in his LS1 with piston and cam only and he want a 700+ rwhp so which heads is better AFR or ETP and what is the best size for the intake and exhaust ?
What size motor CI?
If we get some more specs on the bottom end, and what "you" are looking to do with the motor i am sure you will be geting some more responses.
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 12:51 PM
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ETP or Trickflows
best heads period on the market.
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 01:21 PM
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[QUOTE][/ETP or Trickflows
best heads period on the market.QUOTE]

Any actual proof to back up this..With say independent dyno tests on same motor?
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Old May 11, 2008 | 09:33 AM
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ETP, Trickflows, and ALL Pro are all cream of the crop. RHS heads are also the same as Trickflows.
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AFR are proven heads.
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