ProCharger air to water 1800hp intercooler being added to EPP Camaro
05-01-2008, 02:30 PM
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We picked up 100 rwhp on the dyno, but with tightening up the too loose converter it is hard to tell what is doing what. It appears that the converter is still slipping too much, as the mph is still 146 on every run, the same as it was last year! It sounds like we need a different converter asap.
I wasn't at the track last night, I had a funeral to go to. From what I heard the car was running 9.40 spinning the tires most of the way down the track. Bob
I wasn't at the track last night, I had a funeral to go to. From what I heard the car was running 9.40 spinning the tires most of the way down the track. Bob
Still plan on making BG?
05-01-2008, 05:00 PM
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Were thinking a Chance or ATI this time around.
05-01-2008, 08:07 PM
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05-01-2008, 08:17 PM
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Nice pic Jake, do you have any launching?
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95 Pontiac Formula- Stock engine with ATI Procharger, Moser 12 bolt w/4:30 gears, Rossler trans, Neil Chance 4000 stall, M/T ET streets, 10.914@ 121.90mph, 1.452 60ft. GMHTP November 2010 Feature Car. Check it out at:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abZ1z...ature=youtu.be
05-01-2008, 08:21 PM
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I was wondering if you guys were coming down, if you were I was thinking about going and running in the index class but since the weather took a turn for the worst I'll stay local. I hear you on the fuel prices
05-01-2008, 08:25 PM
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I'm using an 8" ATI and I'm still nowhere near blowing through it yet. Did you switch to a 3.50 or still on the 3.70 gear?
I was wondering if you guys were coming down, if you were I was thinking about going and running in the index class but since the weather took a turn for the worst I'll stay local. I hear you on the fuel prices
I was wondering if you guys were coming down, if you were I was thinking about going and running in the index class but since the weather took a turn for the worst I'll stay local. I hear you on the fuel prices
Were still a 3.70, might have to swap in a 3.50 if we make more hp. We changed to a 28x10.5 and did somewhat good for a track known for being not so great for traction.
05-01-2008, 08:25 PM
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I'm using an 8" ATI and I'm still nowhere near blowing through it yet. Did you switch to a 3.50 or still on the 3.70 gear?
I was wondering if you guys were coming down, if you were I was thinking about going and running in the index class but since the weather took a turn for the worst I'll stay local. I hear you on the fuel prices
I was wondering if you guys were coming down, if you were I was thinking about going and running in the index class but since the weather took a turn for the worst I'll stay local. I hear you on the fuel prices
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95 Pontiac Formula- Stock engine with ATI Procharger, Moser 12 bolt w/4:30 gears, Rossler trans, Neil Chance 4000 stall, M/T ET streets, 10.914@ 121.90mph, 1.452 60ft. GMHTP November 2010 Feature Car. Check it out at:
https://www.motortrend.com/features/...ebird-formula/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abZ1z...ature=youtu.be
95 Pontiac Formula- Stock engine with ATI Procharger, Moser 12 bolt w/4:30 gears, Rossler trans, Neil Chance 4000 stall, M/T ET streets, 10.914@ 121.90mph, 1.452 60ft. GMHTP November 2010 Feature Car. Check it out at:
https://www.motortrend.com/features/...ebird-formula/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abZ1z...ature=youtu.be
05-01-2008, 08:27 PM
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Jake, post up more pics
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https://www.motortrend.com/features/...ebird-formula/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abZ1z...ature=youtu.be
95 Pontiac Formula- Stock engine with ATI Procharger, Moser 12 bolt w/4:30 gears, Rossler trans, Neil Chance 4000 stall, M/T ET streets, 10.914@ 121.90mph, 1.452 60ft. GMHTP November 2010 Feature Car. Check it out at:
https://www.motortrend.com/features/...ebird-formula/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abZ1z...ature=youtu.be
05-02-2008, 04:53 AM
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I had sent the converter back to BTE to get it restalled. We had bought this converter at the LSX race last Oct from BTE. They just made me pay $175.00 to get it restalled since it had been longer than 90 days!
Brent called BTE yesterday and told them what it was doing, and they basically told him that we were making too much power for the converter, and they rebuilt it to all they could do. BTE said we'd have to buy a new one, and did not offer a price break at all.
I would of gone with an ATI last year if I could of gotten one quick enough, it looks like I'll be going that route after all. Bob
05-02-2008, 09:47 AM
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Hey Steve,
I'm the FNG at EPP and Jake showed me a few pics of your car that he took. He's busy working on a car so I'll post them up for ya.
Bob,
Saying he has a great camera to take pics is like telling an artist his brush does great work. A camera is just a tool, it's the operator behind it that makes it happen.
With that being said, the camera is awesome and Jake got lucky!
I'm just kiddin, Jake!
EDIT: Steve, you going to be at SNS 08?
I'm the FNG at EPP and Jake showed me a few pics of your car that he took. He's busy working on a car so I'll post them up for ya.
Bob,
Saying he has a great camera to take pics is like telling an artist his brush does great work. A camera is just a tool, it's the operator behind it that makes it happen.
With that being said, the camera is awesome and Jake got lucky!
I'm just kiddin, Jake!EDIT: Steve, you going to be at SNS 08?
05-02-2008, 12:28 PM
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Hey Steve,
I'm the FNG at EPP and Jake showed me a few pics of your car that he took. He's busy working on a car so I'll post them up for ya.
Bob,
Saying he has a great camera to take pics is like telling an artist his brush does great work. A camera is just a tool, it's the operator behind it that makes it happen.
With that being said, the camera is awesome and Jake got lucky! I'm just kiddin, Jake!
EDIT: Steve, you going to be at SNS 08?
I'm the FNG at EPP and Jake showed me a few pics of your car that he took. He's busy working on a car so I'll post them up for ya.
Bob,
Saying he has a great camera to take pics is like telling an artist his brush does great work. A camera is just a tool, it's the operator behind it that makes it happen.
With that being said, the camera is awesome and Jake got lucky!
I'm just kiddin, Jake!EDIT: Steve, you going to be at SNS 08?
05-02-2008, 09:16 PM
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No doubt, a lot of changes at once!
I had sent the converter back to BTE to get it restalled. We had bought this converter at the LSX race last Oct from BTE. They just made me pay $175.00 to get it restalled since it had been longer than 90 days!
Brent called BTE yesterday and told them what it was doing, and they basically told him that we were making too much power for the converter, and they rebuilt it to all they could do. BTE said we'd have to buy a new one, and did not offer a price break at all.
I would of gone with an ATI last year if I could of gotten one quick enough, it looks like I'll be going that route after all. Bob
I had sent the converter back to BTE to get it restalled. We had bought this converter at the LSX race last Oct from BTE. They just made me pay $175.00 to get it restalled since it had been longer than 90 days!
Brent called BTE yesterday and told them what it was doing, and they basically told him that we were making too much power for the converter, and they rebuilt it to all they could do. BTE said we'd have to buy a new one, and did not offer a price break at all.
I would of gone with an ATI last year if I could of gotten one quick enough, it looks like I'll be going that route after all. Bob
I'm not saying ATI is the best in the universe, but I have flogged this thing for over three years now and it was as close as you could get stall-wise. But there is quite a few companies that make good converters, just have to throw a dart sometimes
I put the 3.9 pulley on and was going to run it today, towed 120 miles one way to watch it rain, weather said zero percent chance of rain and mostly sunny. 100.00 in diesel right out the window
05-02-2008, 10:19 PM
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ATI usually gets a new one out in one day, you are just too impatient
I'm not saying ATI is the best in the universe, but I have flogged this thing for over three years now and it was as close as you could get stall-wise. But there is quite a few companies that make good converters, just have to throw a dart sometimes
I put the 3.9 pulley on and was going to run it today, towed 120 miles one way to watch it rain, weather said zero percent chance of rain and mostly sunny. 100.00 in diesel right out the window
I'm not saying ATI is the best in the universe, but I have flogged this thing for over three years now and it was as close as you could get stall-wise. But there is quite a few companies that make good converters, just have to throw a dart sometimes
I put the 3.9 pulley on and was going to run it today, towed 120 miles one way to watch it rain, weather said zero percent chance of rain and mostly sunny. 100.00 in diesel right out the window
What crank pulley do you run with that sdce?
Were around 73,900 @ 7k with a 3.90 and a ATI pulley, only 17 or so psi.
After swapping cams we appear to drop 2 or so psi depending on how good the air is.
We were having computer issues as well so data was limited.
Just be glad it was 120 miles and not 500, with diesel around 4.00-4.50 it is a hurtin for everyone who tows these days.